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Postby hybrid » Sun Jun 11, 2006 6:36 pm

Havok1517 wrote:Well, he'll come back down to earth and then we'll see how he adjusts.


Yeah I didn't think you would give any. Oh well I have time to wait and see who will be the better player.
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Postby p32bars » Sun Jun 11, 2006 6:37 pm

Havok1517 wrote:Heard Kemp has a problem hitting off speed stuff. Give pitchers some time to see how to get this guy out. It wil happen.


What is it with comments like these that make it seem like people on these forums are rooting for his failure. I've heard so much crap over the years about young guys coming in and tearing things up and then I hear the people spewing out the negative comments and how guys really aren't that good while they're in the midst of their own respective hot streaks.

It's like the people on these boards who make these comments are actual major league scouts who have been following these players from high school to the majors just waiting to throw something out there negative.

Sure, I understand that once pitchers get used to Kemp, they will develop a gameplan on how to pitch him, that's how baseball works, but on the other hand, don't say that once a gameplan is administered, there is nothing Kemp or anyone else can do about it so we might as well just drop him or don't worry about adding him b/c he will be tainted once pitchers learn to pitch him.

I also understand the rookies of fantasy baseball that cream their pants over young studs or guys who start off 10 for their first 18 or some other type of insane stat that sparks the topics: "Drop Berkman for Kendry Morales" or "Drop Zito for Zumaya".

Relevant posts are needed to help young fantasy ballers from making mistakes during the course of their season, but I'm sick of guys posting things, that in my opinion, are nothing more than hopeful, lucky guesses on how a player will perform in a said period of time made soley so that if the player does poorly, the guy who posted it will look like a genius.

I'm all for opinions, but if you have one, at least back it up with credible evidence or stats from years past. We all know that pitchers will start understanding how to pitch Kemp, you're definately right about that, but who is to say Kemp can't adapt and adjust? It's not a one way street, there are two parties to this equation, Kemp and opposing pitchers.

Sorry for the vent, but this has reached a boiling point with me over the past few weeks.
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Postby Philliebuster » Sun Jun 11, 2006 6:38 pm

hybrid wrote:
Havok1517 wrote:Well, he'll come back down to earth and then we'll see how he adjusts.


Yeah I didn't think you would give any. Oh well I have time to wait and see who will be the better player.


Well, so far here i've read that he can't hit off speed pitches, rotoworld says he looks silly on the breaking stuff, apparently he can't hit any pitches. :-?
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Postby Prooks25 » Sun Jun 11, 2006 6:38 pm

Havok1517 wrote:
hybrid wrote:
Havok1517 wrote:Heard Kemp has a problem hitting off speed stuff. Give pitchers some time to see how to get this guy out. It wil happen.


Well most all rookies have a hard time hitting pretty good off speed stuff, it's a learning curve that happens with most everyone. Of course he is bound to slump, he isn't Pujols already ... but maybe ... just maybe ... you should start giving Kemp a tad more credit, hm? ;-) :-b



Well, he'll come back down to earth and then we'll see how he adjusts.

It's getting kinda silly that you can't seem to give this guy any credit what-so-ever.
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Postby dodgers6 » Sun Jun 11, 2006 6:42 pm

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dodgers6 wrote:u guys are over analyzing by this "off speed stuff" this guy can flat out hit, theres a reason he made the jump from Jax to the majors


The big question I have is....is he staying in the starting lineup when Repko and co. return?


he has probably earned himself a TON of playing time if not the starting job

Cruz and Drew usually rotate, while RF and LF have been up for grabbs
Repko had a great amount of playing time before he got injured, Werth is always injured and incosistent IMO, Ledee has and probably will be a bench warmer, Ethier will probably go back down to the majors along with Guzman, Aybar might have earned more PT at 3B
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Postby p32bars » Sun Jun 11, 2006 6:46 pm

Kemp is in the best situation he can be in right now. Out of all the Dodgers OF'ers, he and Ethier are the only ones who so far can remain healthy. Drew could go down at any moment. Werth, as stated in the previous post is hurt a lot. Repko is hurt and suffered a setback today in his rehab and won't begin a rehab assignment for another month, Cruz and Ledee are nothing more than has'beens at this point.

If I'm running the Dodgers looking at that mess, and seeing the way a guy I just called up from AA is producing, I know who I can count on in my outfield.
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Postby houstonoilers » Sun Jun 11, 2006 6:52 pm

Just take what Little has said and use your judgement. Little sees this kid everyday and obviously knows how good he is or he wouldnt have made the jump. I personally feel the guy is a 30+hr 20+thief character at the Major league level.

I just like what young guys like Ryan Howard and Verlander can bring to the game....makes it exciting. I think Kemp has done the same and brought a nice "buzz" to the game, especially since he wasnt in the top 100 prospect watch list.
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Postby hybrid » Sun Jun 11, 2006 6:53 pm

Philliebuster wrote:Well, so far i've read that he can't hit off speed pitches, rotoworld says he looks silly on the breaking stuff, apparently he can't hit any pitches. :-?


Well I wouldn't for one believe everything you hear from rotoworld, it's mainly just good for news. They wrote that after Kemp had trouble w/ breaking pitches against someone who has some of the best, Pedro Martinez. It's hard to get down on the kid for looking bad against him, yet still taking him deep. He like all youngster have trouble against good breaking pitches, but it doesn't mean he can't hit them.
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Postby dodgers6 » Sun Jun 11, 2006 6:56 pm

personally watching the Dodger games, he can flat out hit and has shown patience at the plate it aint like hes swinging for the fences on each pitch they intentionally walked him today but its ur call all signs are + right now and theirs other options out their ;-)
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Postby Diggs » Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:32 pm

"Exactly," to the guy earlier who said that rotoworld made an "offspeed trouble," comment after the Dodgers played the Mets. It was Pedro Martinez ... PEDRO FREAKING MARTINEZ! And while Pedro (a sure-fire first ballot hall of famer) did make him look silly in his first two at bats with some offspeed breaking balls, Kemp made the necessary adjustment and parked another offspeed breaking ball 400+ feet to right-center field in his third at bat. ;-D

Anyone talking negative about Kemp right now is just pissed that someone else beat them to the waiver wire to pick him up while they got caught sleeping. :~(

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