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Postby The Big Stick » Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:40 pm

Tue VS. Col

IP 8.0 BB 2 K 8 ERA 0.00 WHIP 0.38

Sunday VS. Pit

IP 8.0 BB 1 K 4 ERA 0.00 WHIP 0.38

Needless to say he had an exceptional week. If his not NL player of the week that is a shame. Second, will this week be a turning point for him? I think he has some of the best stuff in baseball does anyone agree or disagree? Any thoughts?
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Postby cordscords » Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:43 pm

He definitley does not have good stuff, lol.

He has 4 pitches, but 90% of the time he uses his fastball and a changeup, and is always working up in the strike zone. But his size throws off a hitters timing, and if he gets the count in his favor and combines his size with a pitch that he rarely throws, it's going to throw the hitter off big time.

He was one of the biggest sleepers out there at the beggining of the season, and should be a very productive #3 pitcher the rest of the way.
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Postby j24jags » Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:45 pm

Not quite the best stuff in baseball, but good stuff. I have been a believer ever since the move from Arlington to Petco ;-D
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Postby sdfan » Mon Jun 05, 2006 1:55 am

He hasnt been throwing curves at all due to an injury. Surprised he hasnt been getting hammered, granted he's spotting the ball quite well.
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Postby Mercer Boy » Mon Jun 05, 2006 4:14 am

sdfan wrote:He hasnt been throwing curves at all due to an injury. Surprised he hasnt been getting hammered, granted he's spotting the ball quite well.


Yeah, there were a lot of fly balls in today's game vs. the Pirates. Those can easily turn into HR's, and they were saying that he has a bad tendency for giving them up. Hey, take it while he keeps it up.
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Postby The Big Stick » Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:40 am

I did not watch the game VS PIT but from what I have read, he allowed only a pinch-hit single to Hernandez and the seventh-inning. The first 10 batters he faced, before a walk to Bautista in the fourth were retired. Each of the Pirates' first 15 outs came via strikeout, flyball or popup.

"We popped the ball in the air a lot," Pirates manager Jim Tracy said. "We couldn't figure him out.


"Give credit where credit is due. The guy we faced today now has allowed no runs and three hits in 16 innings pitched."


Young threw 91 pitches -- 62 for strikes -- and faced only three batters above the minimum in his eight innings.

Mercer Boy wrote: "Yeah, there were a lot of fly balls in today's game vs. the Pirates. Those can easily turn into HR's, and they were saying that he has a bad tendency for giving them up. Hey, take it while he keeps it up."

It sounds to me, like Youg was on!! I have also included the article.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=260604123
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Postby pangbones » Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:19 pm

He was playing against me, so that's one reason for his blowup last week. :-P

Moving to Petco was the best thing that could happen to him. Where all those flyballs get caught. I think he's a solid #4 starter, with the potential to be a 3. He was playing Colorado and Pittsburgh.
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Postby davidmarver » Mon Jun 05, 2006 1:37 pm

He's been changing speeds real well and spotting his pitches while he's been doing so; that's going to result in a lot of popups.

However, Bay's triple and flyout were both dangerously close to homeruns, so take Young's good outings with a grain of salt.
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Postby The Big Stick » Mon Jun 05, 2006 1:55 pm

davidmarver wrote:He's been changing speeds real well and spotting his pitches while he's been doing so; that's going to result in a lot of popups.

However, Bay's triple and flyout were both dangerously close to homeruns, so take Young's good outings with a grain of salt.


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Chris Young threw eight shutout innings while allowing just two hits against the Pirates on Sunday to improve to 5-3 on the season.
Young walked just one and struck out four, so he only needed 91 pitches to record 24 outs. Closer Trevor Hoffman was still called on for the ninth in a 1-0 game, allowing Young to record the victory. The outing lowered Young's ERA from 3.80 to 3.39 and he's now posted quality starts in 10-of-12 outings. He should remain an asset in shallow mixed leagues, especially against the Marlins later this week.


"10 out of 12 quality starts" that's pretty darn good. Besides the Braves and Mets, he has pitched really well it sounds like you guys are down on him.

Checkout his game log.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/p ... atsId=7412

I am not saying his a number one type at all or even a number 2 but, his not hurting his value.
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Postby The Loveable Losers » Mon Jun 05, 2006 1:57 pm

davidmarver wrote:He's been changing speeds real well and spotting his pitches while he's been doing so; that's going to result in a lot of popups.

However, Bay's triple and flyout were both dangerously close to homeruns, so take Young's good outings with a grain of salt.


Young's k/bb/hr numbers suggest an era around 4.71 and a whip around 1.399. He's been lucky so far to post the numbers that he's posted. I don't think he's as bad of a pitcher in the k/bb/hr areas as he's shown so far this year but he's certainly not been good so far...his k/9 is down around 7 which is good but not great. His k/bb is around 2 which again is decent but nothing to write home about. And his hr/9 is a terrible 1.5'ish.

On the bizarre is his home/away splits. He's a freakin' fly ball pitcher in PETCO and yet the numbers don't reflect that:

Home: 4.81era, 1.28whip, 2.14hr/9
Away: 2.21era, 0.91whip, 1.11hr/9

That's the bad home/away news. It gets weirder:

Home: 8.29 k/9, 2.94 bb/9, 2.82 k/bb
Away: 5.98 k/9, 3.10 bb/9, 1.93 k/bb

So what we have is a guy that's pitching great in Petco other than giving up a ton of home runs and who pitches like a #4 or #5 pitcher on the road except that he manages to keep the ball in the park and get insanely lucky with his results. All of this adds up to a your guess is as good as mine situation about where things go from here. One thing is certain though - with a 27.9% ground ball percentage Young is going to give up a LOT of home runs. !+)
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