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Postby mweir145 » Wed Aug 16, 2006 9:09 pm

Havok1517 wrote:
mweir145 wrote:Hinske was pulled from the starting lineup just before tonight's game and he's now rumoured to be involved in trade talk Boston: http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5879162

While Hinske has been an extremely valuable player agaisnt right handed pitching this season, I really wouldn't care what the Red Sox give in return if they do in fact pay all of his salary for the next two seasons.



Scott Schoeneweis was just traded to the Reds. 700 WLW

Yeah, I already knew that. That was reported earlier today.
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Postby teddy ballgame » Wed Aug 16, 2006 9:24 pm

That would be a very stupid deal. :-P People are already talking about WMP starting next year. Now he gets a chance to show his stuff as a starter and they want to get someone to platoon with him? We already have Kapler, and when Nixon comes back there's going to be issues with who plays. We don't need another utility player. This has been one of my main complaints about the Sox for years. We stock up on utility players instead of someone who can help in the bullpen or something.
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Postby go_jays_go » Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:57 pm

Rotoworld wrote:The Red Sox have reportedly acquired Eric Hinske from the Blue Jays in exchange for a prospect.

The Blue Jays agreed to pay $2.8125 million, which is half of the $5.6 million due him next year. The Red Sox will take on the $1.4 million still owed Hinske for this season. According to the report, the Red Sox will play Hinske a couple of times per week in place of Kevin Youkilis and Mike Lowell. Some time in right field is also a possibility, but since he's not a very good defender, he shouldn't see much time there while Wily Mo Pena is hot. It's doubtful that the Red Sox will ever want to put Pena in center and Hinske in right.


Well I'll be. Hinske was decent for us this year getting the odd start but he's truly not worth it. Good luck with him Red Sox fans.

So long Eric! :-D
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Postby mweir145 » Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:41 am

To add on to the Schoeneweis deal, according to Rosenthal 3 teams were interested in Scott (BoSox, Yankees, Reds):

The Yankees and Red Sox, bracing for their five-game weekend showdown, both showed interest in the Blue Jays' Scott Schoeneweis, a left-handed relief specialist.

But the Reds, true to form under first-year general manager Wayne Krivsky, moved more aggressively, acquiring Schoeneweis on Wednesday for cash or a player to be named.
"I talked to three teams and said, ‘Whoever wants the player can have him,'" Jays G.M. J.P. Ricciardi told FOXSports.com. "Wayne Krivsky said, ‘I'll take him right now.'

"It wasn't like the Yankees and Red Sox were beating down our doors for him. They showed some interest, but not enough to pull the trigger. Krivsky wanted him a little bit more."

Schoeneweis, the seventh reliever acquired by Krivsky since July 7, is expected to fill the role vacated by Kent Mercker, who needs season-ending elbow-ligament transplant surgery.

After a strong season for the Jays in 2005, Schoeneweis' ERA has more than doubled in ‘06, going from 3.32 to 6.51.

Krivsky, however, said he valued Schoeneweis' experience, durability and groundball style, which could prove an asset at Cincinnati's Great American Ballpark.

"I've got a scout that has seen him quite a bit," Krivsky said. "He was comfortable with us getting him."

Schoeneweis' strikeout rate has fallen dramatically, and his opponents' on-base percentage is .350. But he has fared better against lefties, allowing no home runs in 74 at-bats.

Krivsky praised the Reds' new ownership for allowing him the financial latitude to continue overhauling his bullpen.

"Our ownership has done just what they said they'd do at the opening press conference – they said that if we were in it, they would step up, do what it takes," Krivsky said.

"Look at how tight this thing is. One or two transactions can mean the difference."

The Reds lead the National League wild-card race by one game.


The Red Sox and the Yankees only had marginal interest and didn't make an offer (good move IMO, considering Schoeneweis has been terrible this season), and Krivsky was the first guy to make an actual offer.

I do like this minor deal for the Jays as it does save us a little over half a million to use on next year's payroll.
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Postby teddy ballgame » Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:00 am

The Sox have been trying to work out a deal for LaTroy Hawkins too. Hopefully they can get something done before this big series.

We also acquired Carlos Pena.
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Postby quitesanemax » Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:56 pm

teddy ballgame wrote:The Sox have been trying to work out a deal for LaTroy Hawkins too. Hopefully they can get something done before this big series.

We also acquired Carlos Pena.


The Hawkins deal... I'd like to see that one go through. I agree with you on Hinske. I thought it was left handed pitching the Red Sox had trouble hitting. Why do we need someone who is good at hitting righties?
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Postby MMoNeY24 » Thu Aug 17, 2006 3:14 pm

teddy ballgame wrote:The Sox have been trying to work out a deal for LaTroy Hawkins too. Hopefully they can get something done before this big series.


I hope the Red Sox get Hawkins, too. :-D
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Postby bdrotoronto » Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:50 pm

Keith Law reports on his ESPN blog that Wells has told JP Ricciardi flat out he won't return to Toronto after his contract expires after 2007.

I can't access the full article (insider), but the part that's publicly posted follows: link
Let the Vernon Wells watch begin posted: Friday, August 18,

Vernon Wells has told Blue Jays' management that he has no intention of signing a contract extension to stay in Toronto; he and his family would like to move closer to his home in Texas, and he has become increasingly disenchanted in Toronto as he has faced public criticism from general manager J.P. Ricciardi. It hasn't helped matters that the Blue Jays' clubhouse has become one of the least diverse in baseball, with Wells currently the only African-American player on Toronto's 25-man roster.
Wells has one year remaining on the five-year deal he signed in spring training of 2003 and will earn just $5.6 million in 2006, after which he'll be eligible for free agency entering his age-29 season.

Sources around baseball indicate the Blue Jays will explore trading Wells this winter rather than allow a repeat of the Carlos Delgado situation in 2004, when the team was unable to trade the impending free agent due to Delgado's blanket no-trade clause and thus ended up with nothing after Delgado left. While the Blue Jays could play out 2007 and take two draft picks for Wells, they're looking at Wells as the one chip they might be able to play into some help for their beleaguered rotation.

This is the big news on local talk radio tonight. Law used to work as a special advisor with the Jays, so this is presumed to have some credence. In a way this is really not news at all, since a lot of people have seen this coming for miles ever since Ricciardi called Wells out in public about a month ago in Kansas City.

Well hopefully they can get something good for a trade. :-/ I personally have believed there's no way Wells would return for a while now, so better to get something for him while they can in the off-season. Especially when there are so many holes in the pitching staff they need to fill.
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Postby Havok1517 » Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:03 pm

Wow, I think MVP numbers for Wells in Tex.
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Postby mweir145 » Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:05 pm

quitesanemax wrote:
teddy ballgame wrote:The Sox have been trying to work out a deal for LaTroy Hawkins too. Hopefully they can get something done before this big series.

We also acquired Carlos Pena.


The Hawkins deal... I'd like to see that one go through. I agree with you on Hinske. I thought it was left handed pitching the Red Sox had trouble hitting. Why do we need someone who is good at hitting righties?

I'm thinking Hinske was possibly brought in to be Trot Nixon's replacement next year, and maybe fill in at 1st or 3rd occasionally. As for why you need someone who is good at hitting righties, well you can never have enough offense.
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