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Postby NikkiSixx » Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:18 pm

These guys have both been amazing as of late. Patterson with speed and a little bit of power, and Thomas with just the power. I personally think if both stay healthy (especially Thomas, he always gets injured), than they could have a big impact on fantasy teams with a great combination of power and speed between the 2 of them.



IF Thomas stays healthy the whole year, which should happen because he plays DH, than is 40 HR's out of the question? His HR/AB rate has really never gone down so I would say he has just as much power as he did in 2003 when he hit 40+ HR's.



Corey Patterson might get 50 steals (that goes for Brian Roberts as well), he attempts to steal about every time he gets on. Add that with 20 HR potential and you have the biggest steal in fantasy baseball this year. He is back to being a 4th-5th rounder next year in my opinion.





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Postby buminabox » Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:39 pm

Umm Thomas hasn't been amazing. Has 11 HR's sure, but his average is in the .220's and his RBI's are mediocre.

As for Patterson, he has played well although i dont see a 20-50 season. He may put up something like 20-40 with a decent average which would make him at least a 4-5 rounder next year.
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Postby NikkiSixx » Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:42 pm

buminabox wrote:Umm Thomas hasn't been amazing. Has 11 HR's sure, but his average is in the .220's and his RBI's are mediocre.

As for Patterson, he has played well although i dont see a 20-50 season. He may put up something like 20-40 with a decent average which would make him at least a 4-5 rounder next year.


I never said that Thomas has been amazing all around, I just said he has shown amazing power this season. Also he is in the middle of a hot streak right now.
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Postby NikkiSixx » Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:42 pm

Oh, my bad, let me edit that lol.
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Postby rippz » Fri Jun 02, 2006 12:09 am

And why dont you think patterson will be 20-50? The guy now leads the league with 21 stolen bases and has close to anyhwere from 80-100 less at bats than all MLB starters.....


Im going to say Patterson goes 20-50 auto as long as he keeps a full-time gig.....


He is just amazing right now and if you take away last years stats... this kid is for real.....

His Ks are way way way down right now and he may have learned from last year.... I think he is for real and should easily be this years #1 waiver wire steal.
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Postby CadensDad » Fri Jun 02, 2006 12:20 am

rippz wrote:And why dont you think patterson will be 20-50? The guy now leads the league with 21 stolen bases and has close to anyhwere from 80-100 less at bats than all MLB starters.....


Im going to say Patterson goes 20-50 auto as long as he keeps a full-time gig.....


He is just amazing right now and if you take away last years stats... this kid is for real.....

His Ks are way way way down right now and he may have learned from last year.... I think he is for real and should easily be this years #1 waiver wire steal.


He was a top 20 player bay in 04 (I think that was the year.) With the Cubs and he got hurt with like 2 months left in the year and hasnt been the same since then. (Until now.)

I have him in most of my leagues and I tried to buy him where I could when I didnt get him first. Big time player this year.
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Postby NikkiSixx » Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:30 am

rippz wrote:And why dont you think patterson will be 20-50? The guy now leads the league with 21 stolen bases and has close to anyhwere from 80-100 less at bats than all MLB starters.....


Im going to say Patterson goes 20-50 auto as long as he keeps a full-time gig.....


He is just amazing right now and if you take away last years stats... this kid is for real.....

His Ks are way way way down right now and he may have learned from last year.... I think he is for real and should easily be this years #1 waiver wire steal.


He literally runs everytime he is on 1st base, as long as 2nd base is open. Im starting to get a little upset I traded him away :~(


At least I got Pedro though ;-D
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Postby WittyC » Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:33 am

CadensDad wrote:
rippz wrote:And why dont you think patterson will be 20-50? The guy now leads the league with 21 stolen bases and has close to anyhwere from 80-100 less at bats than all MLB starters.....


Im going to say Patterson goes 20-50 auto as long as he keeps a full-time gig.....


He is just amazing right now and if you take away last years stats... this kid is for real.....

His Ks are way way way down right now and he may have learned from last year.... I think he is for real and should easily be this years #1 waiver wire steal.


He was a top 20 player bay in 04 (I think that was the year.) With the Cubs and he got hurt with like 2 months left in the year and hasnt been the same since then. (Until now.)

I have him in most of my leagues and I tried to buy him where I could when I didnt get him first. Big time player this year.


The reason C-Pat wasn't the same after the injury actually had nothing to do with the injury at all. He stopped being able to hit at the same time the Cubs messed with his swing and tried to make him into a leadoff man. :-?

The Cubs ruined Patterson for a couple of years, which is just a shame. Sure, he's got some gaping holes in his swing, but a guy who can hit .270 with 20-25 homers, good speed and excellent defense should be able to find a home in almost any lineup. The Cubs just got greedy with the kid.

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Postby NikkiSixx » Fri Jun 02, 2006 2:35 am

WittyC wrote:
CadensDad wrote:
rippz wrote:And why dont you think patterson will be 20-50? The guy now leads the league with 21 stolen bases and has close to anyhwere from 80-100 less at bats than all MLB starters.....


Im going to say Patterson goes 20-50 auto as long as he keeps a full-time gig.....


He is just amazing right now and if you take away last years stats... this kid is for real.....

His Ks are way way way down right now and he may have learned from last year.... I think he is for real and should easily be this years #1 waiver wire steal.


He was a top 20 player bay in 04 (I think that was the year.) With the Cubs and he got hurt with like 2 months left in the year and hasnt been the same since then. (Until now.)

I have him in most of my leagues and I tried to buy him where I could when I didnt get him first. Big time player this year.


The reason C-Pat wasn't the same after the injury actually had nothing to do with the injury at all. He stopped being able to hit at the same time the Cubs messed with his swing and tried to make him into a leadoff man. :-?

The Cubs ruined Patterson for a couple of years, which is just a shame. Sure, he's got some gaping holes in his swing, but a guy who can hit .270 with 20-25 homers, good speed and excellent defense should be able to find a home in almost any lineup. The Cubs just got greedy with the kid.

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Has messing with a players swing, that was already a pretty good hitter, ever benefitted anybody? Not many... The only one I can think of is Derek Lee who I guess watched a tape on how to hit certain pitches when you are that tall.
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Postby tianyi86 » Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:14 am

Patterson is a very aggressive runner. As long as he can get hits, his sb will be there. As a poster already said, as long as hes on first and 2nd is open, he will run. Last week, he had 6 hits and 6 sb! Pretty much, he ran every time hes on 1st, and ran even once at 2nd.

Bottomline, If Patterson can hit .270+, he will steal at least 40 bases. If he hit like hes hitting now at .300 (which he probably wont retain) he can swipe over 60+.
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