Wins---if you leave before the 5th inning w/ the lead.......

[Fubashi]

Do you still get the win like kazmir today if the rays win?

[Amazing Oopah]

nope, the starter needs to get through at least 5 innings to pick up the win IIRC.

[cordscords]

nope

[pokeyjoe]

So can there be a game where no one gets the win? I don't think so, right?

[The_Met_Threat]

So can there be a game where no one gets the win? I don't think so, right?

Someones gotta get a win.

[Tavish]

So can there be a game where no one gets the win? I don't think so, right?

Nope, baseball stats (at least the orginal ones) were designed to be a balanced book. For every Win there is a Loss, every Hit there is a Hit Allowed, etc. Another reason to hate Saves and Holds.

[broomulack]

So can there be a game where no one gets the win? I don't think so, right?

If a starter doesn't go five innings, it is in the hands of the official scorer - provided there isn't a tie that is later broken of course.

But if a team goes up 5-0, pitcher gets hurt and leaves in the 3rd, it is the official scorer's call. They usually give it to the guy who pitches the most innings, generally the guy who immediately relieves the starter.

[WittyC]

So can there be a game where no one gets the win? I don't think so, right?

Nope, baseball stats (at least the orginal ones) were designed to be a balanced book. For every Win there is a Loss, every Hit there is a Hit Allowed, etc. Another reason to hate Saves and Holds.

Couldn't we just charge a save/hold allowed to the opposing pitcher?

[echrisl]

So can there be a game where no one gets the win? I don't think so, right?

If a starter doesn't go five innings, it is in the hands of the official scorer - provided there isn't a tie that is later broken of course.

But if a team goes up 5-0, pitcher gets hurt and leaves in the 3rd, it is the official scorer's call. They usually give it to the guy who pitches the most innings, generally the guy who immediately relieves the starter.

Except of course for those rare occasions when the official scorer just does whatever he wants to do (probably because he needs a W for his fantasy team ) ... happens every now and then!

[The G-Man]

Check out the May 29 Dodger game for an example. Penny left after 4.1 innings with the lead. Beimel got the win.