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Postby Fubashi » Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:46 pm

Do you still get the win like kazmir today if the rays win?
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Postby Amazing Oopah » Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:50 pm

nope, the starter needs to get through at least 5 innings to pick up the win IIRC.
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Postby cordscords » Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:50 pm

nope :,-(
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Postby pokeyjoe » Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:39 pm

So can there be a game where no one gets the win? I don't think so, right?
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Postby The_Met_Threat » Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:42 pm

pokeyjoe wrote:So can there be a game where no one gets the win? I don't think so, right?


Someones gotta get a win.
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Postby Tavish » Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:42 pm

pokeyjoe wrote:So can there be a game where no one gets the win? I don't think so, right?


Nope, baseball stats (at least the orginal ones) were designed to be a balanced book. For every Win there is a Loss, every Hit there is a Hit Allowed, etc. Another reason to hate Saves and Holds.
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Postby broomulack » Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:37 pm

pokeyjoe wrote:So can there be a game where no one gets the win? I don't think so, right?


If a starter doesn't go five innings, it is in the hands of the official scorer - provided there isn't a tie that is later broken of course.

But if a team goes up 5-0, pitcher gets hurt and leaves in the 3rd, it is the official scorer's call. They usually give it to the guy who pitches the most innings, generally the guy who immediately relieves the starter.
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Postby WittyC » Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:25 am

Tavish wrote:
pokeyjoe wrote:So can there be a game where no one gets the win? I don't think so, right?


Nope, baseball stats (at least the orginal ones) were designed to be a balanced book. For every Win there is a Loss, every Hit there is a Hit Allowed, etc. Another reason to hate Saves and Holds.


Couldn't we just charge a save/hold allowed to the opposing pitcher? :-? :-? :-? :-D
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Postby echrisl » Fri Jun 02, 2006 2:09 am

broomulack wrote:
pokeyjoe wrote:So can there be a game where no one gets the win? I don't think so, right?


If a starter doesn't go five innings, it is in the hands of the official scorer - provided there isn't a tie that is later broken of course.

But if a team goes up 5-0, pitcher gets hurt and leaves in the 3rd, it is the official scorer's call. They usually give it to the guy who pitches the most innings, generally the guy who immediately relieves the starter.


Except of course for those rare occasions when the official scorer just does whatever he wants to do (probably because he needs a W for his fantasy team ;-) ) ... happens every now and then!
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Postby The G-Man » Fri Jun 02, 2006 8:21 am

Check out the May 29 Dodger game for an example. Penny left after 4.1 innings with the lead. Beimel got the win.
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