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Postby timkell » Sun Jun 09, 2002 11:04 pm

Is it something with the film they used back then? It doesn't play back at standard speed or something?

Sounds ridiculous, I know, but why break with the current theme!
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Postby EugeneStyles » Sun Jun 09, 2002 11:12 pm

Yeah, I'm sure that's it, tim. Like when you watch old war movies and the Germans goosestep at a ridiculous speed. I forget why old movies do that.
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Postby Arlo » Mon Jun 10, 2002 5:54 am

Credit jwhands with this one... In Maris' day, it was considered poor sportsmanship to run the bases slowly after a home run. The thinking was that the pitcher had already been shown up, and you didn't want to prolong his humiliation. Therefore, even for a milestone homer like Maris', players ran at close to full speed out of respect for the opposing hurler.

Just something that strikes me as interesting... :->
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Postby EugeneStyles » Mon Jun 10, 2002 8:47 am

Shows what I know. 8-o
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Postby timkell » Mon Jun 10, 2002 12:00 pm

Yeah, Eugenstyles. I like our answers better. Trick question!

I knew that they all went faster, but I thought there was something specific about Maris' homer.

I demand a recount!

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Postby Arlo » Mon Jun 10, 2002 6:23 pm

Ok, ok... I admit the question was somewhat misleading, and certain Florida counties will in fact be recounted. :-D

Sorry about that - for some reason, there's something special to me about Maris, even in his crowning moment, abiding by this etiquette.
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Postby timkell » Thu Jun 13, 2002 11:47 am

Maris should definitely be in the hall of fame. He got screwed, that's for sure.

Check out these links:
http://www.ndrogermaris.com/stats_facts.html
http://pw2.netcom.com/~houdini/myths.html
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Postby Arlo » Fri Jun 14, 2002 7:08 am

Good links and an interesting issue. I disagree with some of the arguments made (comparing Maris' home run percentage with that of Bench or Berra is somewhat silly, for instance), but I agree that maris should be in the Hall, even if his career numbers are somewhat lacking. His other achievements - including the back-to-back mvp awards - on their own wouldn't qualify him in my book, but those accomplishments together with a record that changed the face of the sport definitely make the cut.

I'm very much against lowering the bar and watering down the Hall of Fame, but Maris should be in. If you made a list of players who truly changed the face of the game in the 20th century, Maris would be on that list, and that seems more important to me than mere numbers.
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