You gotta look over Bonds. He is a very emotional guy. Sometimes he happy, sometimes sad, sometines he is angry. Steroids play hell with ones emotions. Hope one of these young pitchers plant a ball in his head then maybe he will shut up about them.
Y'know, I really don't care what Bonds or any other player does off the field. It's nothing but *very* mild entertainment. So I have no idea why people get fired up about calling him a bad "human being". You don't even know him. When Barry runs for public office, then take him to task for what he says. Until then, he's just another guy in a long line of folks that just hit the ball. It seems like a lot of Hall of Famers were had one "issue" or another--Cobb, Williams, DiMaggio, Mantle, Rose (oh, we'll wait 10 years on that one)...So why care if Bonds does something to reinforce the fact that he has a big ego, which everyone knows already?
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What Zambrano did was classless. Every player on SF should be upset. But because Bonds spoke up, its rip Barry again. Zambrano needs to get plunked next time he pitches against SF. I know i would tell my pitcher to plunk his ***.
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HOOTIE wrote:What Zambrano did was classless. Every player on SF should be upset. But because Bonds spoke up, its rip Barry again. Zambrano needs to get plunked next time he pitches against SF. I know i would tell my pitcher to plunk his ***.
that's the most ridiculous thing I have heard yet on this forum. I don't even need to explain why. wasn't it just a couple weeks ago when pujols celebrated a little after his walk off homerun and when he got plunked we all cried foul???? NO one said he was classless for celebrating. doesn't Bonds take a few steps and hold his bat up every time he hits a home run? no one rips him and calls him classless for doing that and celebrating. that was a huge moment in the game as it is and a little celebration is warrented. I have ALWAYS stuck up for bonds and tried to understand what he says but this makes me realize that he really IS THAT self-centered. Only an egotistical maniac would say that kind of thing.
BTW... what prompted that post? cause i sure don't know where it came from.
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HOOTIE wrote:What Zambrano did was classless. Every player on SF should be upset. But because Bonds spoke up, its rip Barry again. Zambrano needs to get plunked next time he pitches against SF. I know i would tell my pitcher to plunk his ***.
Seems to me like Randy Johnson gets pretty pumped when he gets a big out. Why is it wrong for a pitcher to show emotion, but not a hitter?
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I don't see how Zambrano deserves to get plunked for being very excited that he got out of a huge jam against the greatest hitter in baseball of his era. If thats the case, doesn't Barry deserve to get plunked for his watching, then walking and then finally trotting after he hits a HR? That seems like showing up the pitcher to me.
Well, at least he's not as bad as Brett Boone with his bat flip. Gotta love it when he flips the bat and it doesn't even go over the wall it serves him right for that crap.
BTW- isn't the body armor on his elbow that he and some other players wear supposed to be illegal?
Seems to me like Randy Johnson gets pretty pumped when he gets a big out. Why is it wrong for a pitcher to show emotion, but not a hitter?[/quote]
Its ok to get excited, but jumping around like Carlos did is too much. Its basically saying to the hitter, ha ha i got you. RJ does get too emotional, but he does at least have hof credentials to back him up. What has Carlos done? A hitter watching a hr, is a little different then jumping all over the mound. Perhaps Bonds should do a little dance on his next hr trot versus Chicago. I do agree that hitters like Sosa doing a bunny hop is crap.
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You Barry bashers are absolutely ridiculous. Did any of you see him say this?
He could have said this with a big smile on his face, just giving Zambrano some ribbing. Do you know? I don't.
Besides that, even if he's pissed off, this stuff happens in baseball all the time. It's an unwritten rule that rookies and young players should not gloat when they get the better of a star.
I've seen pitchers yell at rookies for taking a slow trot after a home run. What Barry said is no different from what a million other players have said.
Veteran players are supposed to teach younger players the ettiquette of the game. This is a well know part of baseball etiquette, so don't bash Barry for speaking about it when a million other players have before.
Call him an a** hole when he actually is one, not when he's doing what many other ball players have.