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Postby mikhayl » Thu May 25, 2006 3:32 pm

If trades were executed on a per pound basis, Jerome Williams would bring back 2, possibly 3 good prospects.
Let's go O's. Let's go Mets.
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Postby RugbyD » Thu May 25, 2006 3:42 pm

I stopped acknowledging whats-his-face Sun-Times guy a long time ago. Though I did recognize someone that looks exactly like him drunk as hell at Harry's in St Louis when i was there for a Cubs game.
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Postby yourgodsdice » Thu May 25, 2006 4:15 pm

Yeah, Mariotti is the reason why I hate around the horn.

I agree about letting Baker go though...not for Brenley. I think that would be a downgrade.
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Postby CadensDad » Thu May 25, 2006 4:46 pm

chadlincoln wrote:I'd love for the Cubs to dump their "stars" of today for prospects. Get rid of Prior and Wood definately. I was just talking about this the other day with my friend that they need to rebuild completely and win a world series once every ten years like the Marlins do. ;-D



Marlins have won 2 series in the last 10 years 2003 over the Yankees and 1997 over the Indians the only other team to win 2 in that time span is......the Yankees.

Hmmmm Marlins smallest payroll in baseball with 2 rings

Yankess largest payroll in baseball with 2 rings.....
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Postby BigZ38 » Thu May 25, 2006 4:59 pm

No way Aramis goes. The Cubs have had a gaping hole at third base for years and he has finally filled it. Pierre should be traded, Prior should be trade, Wood should be traded, and if anyone will take Jacque Jones they should get rid of him too. Keep Lee, Ramirez, Cedeno, Murton, Barrett, Marshall, Zambrano.
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Postby Havok1517 » Thu May 25, 2006 5:02 pm

Later Maddux. Cedeno is nothing special.
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Postby SeovyeQuirsefron » Thu May 25, 2006 5:58 pm

chadlincoln wrote:I was just talking about this the other day with my friend that they need to rebuild completely and win a world series once every ten years like the Marlins do. ;-D


I really don't think the Marlins are a template for a successful organization.
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Postby WittyC » Thu May 25, 2006 9:42 pm

SeovyeQuirsefron wrote:
chadlincoln wrote:I was just talking about this the other day with my friend that they need to rebuild completely and win a world series once every ten years like the Marlins do. ;-D


I really don't think the Marlins are a template for a successful organization.


Seriously... it's like "Major League" over there. The ownership is doing everything within their power to make the team lose so they can move to Portland. But the people of Miami will probably break down, buy a new stadium, then watch another beautiful new complex fail to draw fans (see: MIL, KC, DET...).
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Postby Cleveland Steamers » Thu May 25, 2006 10:37 pm

I agree. Baker should be fired. If he isnt fired, the Cubs will very well lose my fanship until a new manager and upper administration is found. They (McPhail, Hendry, Baker) have run the Cubs into the ground. I personally liked the Pierre move which hasnt worked out thus far. I thought signing Jones was absolutely ridiculous and turning down Tejada for Prior wasnt that smart either. The sooner Baker is fired, the happier I will be since they may have a chance at reducing the lopsided losses enough to lure me back into watching such a pitiful team.
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Postby WittyC » Thu May 25, 2006 10:50 pm

Cleveland Steamers wrote:I agree. Baker should be fired. If he isnt fired, the Cubs will very well lose my fanship until a new manager and upper administration is found. They (McPhail, Hendry, Baker) have run the Cubs into the ground. I personally liked the Pierre move which hasnt worked out thus far. I thought signing Jones was absolutely ridiculous and turning down Tejada for Prior wasnt that smart either. The sooner Baker is fired, the happier I will be since they may have a chance at reducing the lopsided losses enough to lure me back into watching such a pitiful team.


I have to respectfully disagree with firing Baker.

I really think the guys respect him and play hard for him. The problem is a little higher up (McPhail, Hendry). They failed to prepare (again) for Wood and Prior's injuries. They've sold out most of the good talent in their farm system, and the rest simply didn't pan out. In their defense, the Tejada for Prior trade was never accepted by either side. It was pure spec.

If the axe falls, which it will, it should land on the neck of Larry Rothschild. He's killed the two best pitching prospects the Cubs have had in the last 20 years by not teaching them how to pitch. Maybe there are problems in the minor league system, too (evidence: Angel Guzman). Either way, Roths' gotta go.

At least Wood's contract is up after this year. I think Prior's competitive nature and desire to get paid will have him coming back healthy as a solid number two to Zamby this year and next. Now that Jones is playing well, we might be able to dump him on the Yanks and get Pie up.

If it were up to me... Hendry and Rothschild get the axe.
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