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Postby Halo Homers » Mon May 22, 2006 3:43 pm

johnsamo wrote:Let's not forget... losing a Cy Young Pitcher will hurt any team. DOnnelly, SHields and K-Rod are maybe the best top-3 bullpen there is, but when the SP situation is weakend with Colon out, you have to pitch your 4th and 5th guys in the bullpen more. I'm sure SCiosia had intended Romero as just a spot guy to get a big lefty out, instead, he's had to put him in throwing way too much.

The problem with the Angels is, they're depending on aging vets on the downslope of their careers and youngsters who aren't improving quickly. That and mere adequate vets like Kennedy and Rvera.

Vlad, Figgins and ORmado Cabrera are darn good. Garrett Anderson is good when he's healthy, but he really ought to be DHing more, but that slot is being taken by Salmon.

Anderson should be DHING far more games, with Salmon getting his ABS at DH when GA is on the field or when he spot starts at 1b.

Trading for a Miggy Cabrera would solve a lot of problems. Miggy and Vlad is like Ortiz and Manny, and that changes the whole way you pitch that lineup. You could move FIggy to a more utility role too.


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I absoluetly agree with the Miggy Cabrera idea. I was thinking who could the Angels get that would immediately solve their problems. He would be a perfect fit. Florida will be asking for a ton in return, whoever gets him. Probably 3 top prospects I'm thinking, or 1 major league ready player and 2 top prospects.
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Postby Slow Pitch » Mon May 22, 2006 3:47 pm

Why not go after Soriano??
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Postby dc928 » Mon May 22, 2006 3:52 pm

As an Angel Fan, I think we should be patient and not giving up the farm for a rental of the year. I mean really who else can you get that can give you power right away without giving up the farm. A Sorieno? Adam Dunn? Manny Ramirez? They all going to cost you and in A Sorieno's case he will be a rental for the rest of the year. Adam Dunn and Manny is going to cost you. Losing Paul Konerko is not Angels's fault. I agree they should trade Adam Kennedy to get another MR and maybe trade Dallas Mcpherson and another prospect for a power bat. Promote Morals to 1B and let him stays there. Aybar at 2B and B Wood at SS. Make G Anderson DH and have Juan Rivera play LF.

Bottomline people, this is a team that lost their best pitcher and still is only 3 or 4 games out of the 1st place in the west. I am not really all that concern for the Angels at this point, all they need is another big bat which they have some of it waiting in the minors. I don't want them to trade up the whole farm for 1 bat unless it is for M Cabrea. Unless I think we should just be patient. In a few years, this team will be awsome. ;-D
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Postby WittyC » Mon May 22, 2006 4:11 pm

johnsamo wrote:ALSO... I really think, especially in their world series year, the Angeles were playing WAY ABOVE their real talent level the last 3rd of the season. I remember that world series year very clearly, and the Angels had the great fortune of having virtually everybody in the lineup being hot all at the same time. Everybody was hitting, even the 8 & 9 guys were hitting. That's a very very rare thing, especially in the playoffs, and I think it sorted of raised the level of expectation for the Angels ever since.


Let's be honest... with your Big Lebowski avatar I don't think you're going to remember anything clearly from four years ago. :*)
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Postby johnsamo » Mon May 22, 2006 10:50 pm

I was there for Angel playoff games... killer seats. my friend knows a guy in the player's union and we got third row above the visitor's dugout. Sat next to Jack Nicholson TWICE in the Angels Yanks series.

When you get seats like that, you can really appreciate how changing speeds is so tough on the hitters.
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Postby Phatferd » Tue May 23, 2006 2:41 am

WittyC wrote:
Phatferd wrote:As an Angel fan I will give you my thoughts.

First of all the Angels suck, it's really simple. I want them to call up all their prospects whom they feel are major league ready and let them play.

They need to gut this team. The bullpen is horrible outside the set-up and closer. The offense is god aweful. I don't think Wood is ready so he should stay down, but they need to bring up Kendrick for good and definately Weaver.

I am starting to think Kotchman is not what he is cracked up to be. I am really regretting the fact that they didn't land Konerko last offseason.

They need to go out and get a power hitting 1B or bring up Morales. Trade Kennedy for a MR or 3B, and bring up Kendrick. OCAB has done alright so I don't mind him for right now at SS. Aybar should be at 3B. Anderson in LF, Figgins in CF (even when Darin I suck Erstad comes back), and of course Vladdy in RF. Catcher needs to be upgraded, Napoli isn't the answer, Molina isn't a hitter and Mathis really struggled, but hopefully he found his swing in AAA.


I think you're exaggerating the BP situation a little bit. Obviously, K-Rod and Shields have been solid, but so has Donnelly. The guy that's killing them is Romero -- the only lefty in the pen. But he'll figure things out so long as Scioscia puts him in situations to succeed.

As you mentioned, the lack of power productions at the corner infield spots is the real problem for Angels. The starting pitching hasn't been great, but Colon is a horse, and he'll be back soon enough. Colon, Escobar and Lackey are a solid 1-2-3, and between Gregg, Santana and Weaver they should be okay at 4-5. I don't think Jered is major-league ready yet, and calling him up would be a mistake, IMO.

Regardless, the Angels are still in good shape in the West. No one is running away with that division by any means, and when the dust settles they'll be right in the thick of things come September. ;-D


One name....Estaban Yan...He has single handedly lost a handful of games for them this year alone. I don't get why they haven't cut his ass or at least replaced him yet. He has done nothing positive for this team since he's come over.

Frankie has even looked shaky.
You have no frame of reference, Donny. You're like a child who walks into the middle of a movie...
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Postby mikegp » Tue May 23, 2006 9:24 am

Morales has been called up. Started off slow in AAA, but has picked it up recently.
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Postby Ender » Tue May 23, 2006 9:39 am

Just because voters were hopped up on goofy juice and gave Colon the Cy Young, doesn't make him a Cy Young quality pitcher~.
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Postby johnsamo » Tue May 23, 2006 6:58 pm

Colon, besides 21 wins versus 8 losses, the great value is, he was an innings eater, 33 starts, averaged 7 innings a start... that's innings that the bottom of the Angels bullpen doesn't have to throw. That's what an ace does, goes out every 5th day, throws a lot of innings and rarely loses a start.
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Postby acsguitar » Tue May 23, 2006 7:04 pm

Any word on Joe Saunders?
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