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Postby Philliebuster » Tue May 16, 2006 4:27 pm

Helton? :~(
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Postby Omaha Red Sox » Tue May 16, 2006 4:36 pm

Hotlanta wrote:
Omaha Red Sox wrote:Possibilities
Sheffield
Kent
Griffey Jr.
Edmonds
Hunter
Renteria
Posada

These are just possibilities. Off the top of my head, I don't know all of their ages, but I believe they are possibly in decline.


Renteria? Smells like sour grapes to me...... ;-7


Might be. :-b

But he is 31 and last season might have been the beginning of something of a decline, even if he is hitting well right now.
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Postby cordscords » Tue May 16, 2006 5:57 pm

Alfonso Soriano
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Postby Havok1517 » Tue May 16, 2006 6:30 pm

Nah, I don't think Soriano, Renteria, & Hunter have declined enough to inclued them. In fact, all 3 have played well and have reemerged imo.


Decline:

RJ (42! and not that good of a starter, would be a great RP though;-)
Clemens (maybe to the point of no return)
Floyd (A great Sell-High guy...last year)
Edmonds (will get hurt)
Pedro (he's just a great pitcher instead of a great arm too)
Maddux (Sell High)
Griffey (love the guy but he is what he is)
Wagner (36 and has always been injury prone)
Bonds (something is wrong, cash in on the name)
Radke (will retire)
Moyer (sell high while you possibly can)
Glavine (Its been a good run)
Trachsel (lucky)
Contreras (he was already old, now older)
Shef (his wrists are the key to his elite bat speed :-(
Lieber (pitching well despite numbers, but he's nothing special)
IROD (imagine what his knees look like)
Varitek (36 and his defensive skills are already limited)
T.Hudson (the K's have gone and his small frame is due for injury)
Ol. Perez (the James Dean of the baseball world???????????)
Javy (he's a great offensive C but an avg 1B/DH)
Suppan (numbers are inflated by the team he plays for, skills r not)
Rogers (please sell high at the deadline)
Castilla (no skills now)
T. Jones (Duh!)
Schmidt (1 more run in him, thats it)


All I got right now ;-D
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Postby Insanity » Tue May 16, 2006 6:45 pm

I concur with Abreu..

Jose Mesa? Or doesn't he count since he only did well in Pittsburgh recently ;-)
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Postby tms298 » Tue May 16, 2006 11:02 pm

The first name that also popped into my head was Abreu. Before I posted it I looked up his numbers and could find no evidence of it in his traditional stats. Perhaps the sabermetrically inclined individuals out there can find some things, and certainly the new ballpark changes things a bit, but I'm not sure Abreu belongs in this group.
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Postby Bukoski77 » Wed May 17, 2006 12:46 am

Philliebuster wrote:Helton? :~(



Interesting selection.

He had a bad 1st half last year but a stellar 2nd half. If you can call it a decline, yet it was an abrupt and fast one by his horrible 1st half slump.

Does anyone thing he will come back and return to at least his 2003 & 2004 numbers? His years of 40HR and 120+ RBI's are a thing of the past IMHO. Does he have it in him to return to his 30HR 100+ RBI .340AVE+ 03/04 form?
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Postby The Guru » Wed May 17, 2006 3:07 am

Manny and Abreau make sense to me.
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Postby markj11 » Wed May 17, 2006 11:00 am

c. floyd, t. helton and b. abreu.
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Postby facts » Wed May 17, 2006 4:19 pm

varitek makes a lot of sense, though this may be a steep decline
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