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Postby WebHamster » Mon May 15, 2006 5:10 pm

This thread contains comments on Arlo Vander's Sleeper "Jorge Julio", which was featured in the Cafe's Sleepers section on May 15, 2006. The full article can be read here.
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Postby Pedantic » Tue May 16, 2006 8:39 am

I hate to cry about the small stuff, but the use of the rather meaningless K/IP kills the intelligibility of an otherwise excellently composed article for me. I certainly hope we aren't switching to ER/IP.
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Postby Madison » Wed May 17, 2006 10:31 am

Pedantic wrote:I hate to cry about the small stuff, but the use of the rather meaningless K/IP kills the intelligibility of an otherwise excellently composed article for me. I certainly hope we aren't switching to ER/IP.


Some of us who play with an innings cap need big K's per inning.

Doug Davis last year anyone? 3.84 era, 1.30 whip, and only 11 wins. Back of the rotation stuff there, as competitive teams finished with numbers better than those. However, 208 K's in 222 innings is practically a K per inning, which gave him solid value, instead of just being waiver wire fodder. ;-)

Oh, and K/IP isn't any different than K/9. ;-)
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Postby Arlo » Wed May 17, 2006 1:59 pm

Pedantic wrote:I hate to cry about the small stuff, but the use of the rather meaningless K/IP kills the intelligibility of an otherwise excellently composed article for me. I certainly hope we aren't switching to ER/IP.

Nothing wrong with criticizing the small stuff. :-)

I'm also not sure what you mean, however. Are you saying that K/IP is meaningless in fantasy leagues? That might be the case in some formats, but I was thinking about the leagues with IP caps that Mad mentioned. Relievers with a solid K/IP rate can be a huge help there, particularly in deeper leagues. Perhaps I should have specified that.

As to K/IP vs. K/9 ... I guess that would be a case of you say to-may-to, I say to-mah-to. :-D (Seriously, though, I tend use the two interchangeably, and don't really give much thought to which of the two I'm using.)
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Postby quitesanemax » Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:53 pm

Chugging along at 1 k per inning at this point. Certainly not as high as when this article was written, but I"m happy with it... as long as he stays the closer in Arizona.

Good article.

I always thought the most important stat out of k/ inning, k/9, and k/bb. Once the pitcher starts giving up lots of walks, hes in trouble. Julio's ratio is great... 3.66.
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