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Postby blankman » Mon Jul 28, 2003 5:08 pm

zoozam wrote:no other player (let alone second baseman) combines all 5 tools


Beltran has done pretty well in terms of 5 tool ability this year too. Hopefully Vlad will rejoin Soriano as a top 5 tool talent next year. ;-D
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Postby great gretzky » Mon Jul 28, 2003 5:32 pm

I fail to see how kent for this year si a superior choice to boone.
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Postby blankman » Mon Jul 28, 2003 5:35 pm

great gretzky wrote:I fail to see how kent for this year si a superior choice to boone.


Not this year as a whole. For the rest of the year is what they are saying. Kent plays in a superior lineup and a GREAT hitters' ballpark, especially for righties. I like Kent over Boone for the rest of the year.
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Postby LCBOY » Mon Jul 28, 2003 6:41 pm

Soriano probably has more value in roto but in H2H Boone scores much more across the boad. Yes, Soriano steals more bases but he gets caught stealing more often, and stikes out more. This year Boone has more BBs and less Ks. In "real baseball" it is no contest. Sorinao is a terrible defenseive 2B. His OPS is only 835 to Boone's 959 OPS. I just don't get the fascination with Soriano. He is a good player but he is hardly a devasting offensive player.

If they ever move Soriano to the outfield he would never ever be a first round pick. His valus is that he plays 2B.
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Postby tjhksig » Mon Jul 28, 2003 7:01 pm

Yeah, but in most fantasy leagues Soriano is a stud b/c they don't count caught stealing, K's, or K/BB ratios. He puts up good numbers in R, HR, RBI, Avg, and Steals, hence the 5 category talk. Boone does not give you steals and slumped a lot last year, hence the non 5 cat. talk.

But in real baseball, yes, I'd rather have a Boone or Kent. But this question is about FANTASY.
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Postby guest » Mon Jul 28, 2003 7:35 pm

I'm in a league that subtracts for K's and CS's. Come one Soriano, you can pull it together.

Roto he rules, H2H not so much.
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Postby quickfingerz » Mon Jul 28, 2003 7:47 pm

VLad for the rest of his career will never be a 5 category man.. you heard it from me first
The key to Fantasy Sports is NOT about Sports but rather the "manipulation of numbers" in your favor

MASTER THOSE NUMBERS
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Postby LCBOY » Mon Jul 28, 2003 9:33 pm

tjhksig wrote:Yeah, but in most fantasy leagues Soriano is a stud b/c they don't count caught stealing, K's, or K/BB ratios. He puts up good numbers in R, HR, RBI, Avg, and Steals, hence the 5 category talk. Boone does not give you steals and slumped a lot last year, hence the non 5 cat. talk.

But in real baseball, yes, I'd rather have a Boone or Kent. But this question is about FANTASY.


In my league CS and Ks are counted so Soriano's value is much lower in my Yahoo league. As for Boone he had a poor 1st half last season but really pounded the ball in the second half.

2002 1st half: .229/.301/.390 .691 OPS
2002 2nd half: .336/.384/.546 .931 OPS

Quite a huge difference, I'd say.
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Postby LCBOY » Mon Jul 28, 2003 9:36 pm

If Soriano was moved the outfield what would his worth be? I doubt he'd be picked in the first five rounds of any draft. Opinions?
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Postby d » Mon Jul 28, 2003 9:40 pm

If Soriano is moved to the OF, he would be a poor man's Vlad(when healthy). He'd be better than Beltran because he has more power. I think he would still be one of those top picks.
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