Omaha Red Sox wrote:The media is stupid for broadcasting these clowns, but the people who watch are just as much to blame, if not more.
Ahh reminds me of a song:
Eye on the TV 'cause tragedy thrills me Whatever flavor It happens to be
Like: "Killed by the husband" "Drowned by the ocean" "Shot by his own son" "She used the poison in his tea and kissed him goodbye" That's my kind of story It's no fun til someone dies
Don't look me at like I am a monster Frown out your one face But with the other Stare like a junkie Into the TV Stare like a zombie While the mother, holds her child Watches him die Hands to the sky cryin, "Why, oh why?"
Cause I need to watch things die From a distance Vicariously, I Live while the whole world dies You all need it too - don't lie.
Fireball Express wrote:First I'd like to cut off his privates (what good would the virgins do then). Then I'd like to personally put 12 slugs in him. One for every person I knew who died on that tragic day. Then I'd like to stick a hook up his arse and string him up a flag pole (under the American Flag) right in the middle of Times Square.
My condolences. And my undying support for whatever justice you'd bestow on a piece of trash like him.
Thanks. If you believe it, right now I have cheeks streaked with tears and chills up and down my spine. Whenever I think of 9-11 my first though is of a high school friend and former teammate. He worked on the 93rd floor in Tower One. I can only imagine what was going through his mind and how gruesome his death must have been. He was a great human being.
http://cf.newsday.com/911/victimsearch.cfm?id=1362
Fireball Express wrote:First I'd like to cut off his privates (what good would the virgins do then). Then I'd like to personally put 12 slugs in him. One for every person I knew who died on that tragic day. Then I'd like to stick a hook up his arse and string him up a flag pole (under the American Flag) right in the middle of Times Square.
My condolences. And my undying support for whatever justice you'd bestow on a piece of trash like him.
Thanks. If you believe it, right now I have cheeks streaked with tears and chills up and down my spine. Whenever I think of 9-11 my first though is of a high school friend and former teammate. He worked on the 93rd floor in Tower One. I can only imagine what was going through his mind and how gruesome his death must have been. He was a great human being. http://cf.newsday.com/911/victimsearch.cfm?id=1362
Time has not deadened my sympathy. It's horrific what those who were in those buildings had to go through. I cannot imagine. At the time of 9-11 I was managing a hotel. We had a woman who was frantic because her brother worked in one of the buildings. She could not contact anyone via phone and could not get a flight. I managed to get one of my buddies (I love this guy. He lost his job because he did what was right) to drive her all the way to NY. Unfortunately, I have no idea what happened, but I pray she found him alive. I forgot her name, because at the time it was irrelevant. I've agonized over this for years wondering why she hasn't called, let us know what happened, or thanked us for our efforts. I've come to grips with the possibilty, the probabiltiy, that she did not receive good news upon her arrival. I cannot type anymore..................
Omaha Red Sox wrote:The media is stupid for broadcasting these clowns, but the people who watch are just as much to blame, if not more.
Ahh reminds me of a song:
Eye on the TV 'cause tragedy thrills me Whatever flavor It happens to be
Like: "Killed by the husband" "Drowned by the ocean" "Shot by his own son" "She used the poison in his tea and kissed him goodbye" That's my kind of story It's no fun til someone dies
Don't look me at like I am a monster Frown out your one face But with the other Stare like a junkie Into the TV Stare like a zombie While the mother, holds her child Watches him die Hands to the sky cryin, "Why, oh why?"
Cause I need to watch things die From a distance Vicariously, I Live while the whole world dies You all need it too - don't lie.
All this discussion and coverage begs the question: Where's Osama?
ZM was not the 'mastermind' behind this. I didn't follow the trial as closely as some but from what I've seen/heard, he might've been able to prevent some of the horror. His comments were absolutely disgusting so that bullet-to-the-head-and-be-done-with-it-option would work for me.
In theory I support the death penalty. But there are a few problems - should our great nation sanction killings legally? Sometime you hear "culture of life" but other times it's a culture of death. Then with the way our justice system works - lawyers, money, corruption, cover ups, set up, humans involved - chance of error.
Don't worry about ZM having it easy by being sentenced the way he was. Bill O'Reilly told his listeners that he'll stay on top of it and if he gets wind of ZM having access to cable TV or any luxuries, there will be big problems. Wow, I know I feel better.
Omaha Red Sox wrote:Exactly. I'm completely being selfish, and I admit it, by this. It would be much easier on the US economy and media if he were immediately put to death. But I do want this scumbag to suffer and this is the best way to humanely do it, imo.
Well execution costs more than keeping him in prison (or so I've heard), plus he would be an instant martyr for the rest of them out there, as if they have more reason to hate us.
by Absolutely Adequate » Sat May 06, 2006 12:20 am
jumpman8288 wrote:
Omaha Red Sox wrote:Exactly. I'm completely being selfish, and I admit it, by this. It would be much easier on the US economy and media if he were immediately put to death. But I do want this scumbag to suffer and this is the best way to humanely do it, imo.
Well execution costs more than keeping him in prison (or so I've heard), plus he would be an instant martyr for the rest of them out there, as if they have more reason to hate us.
Jumpman is right. Although it's counterintuitive, the death penalty costs more. So stop claiming otherwise.
Andrew Sullivan:
A vile human being. I oppose the death penalty, but if I had to make an exception, it would be him. That said, I wasn't on the jury, didn't hear all the evidence, and the system gives them the power to decide such a sentence. The silver lining is that we do not make this monster a martyr. The rule of law was followed; our society allows even this murderous religious fanatic due process. In that sense, Moussaoui got this wrong as he has gotten everything else wrong. He lost. America won. And the fight against him and his allies continues.
by Absolutely Adequate » Sat May 06, 2006 12:47 pm
Fireball Express wrote:AA, good to hear from you. That fact that you usually are my polar opposite doesn't me that I don't appreciate what you have to say.
That Sullivan guy has a good point. I think ZM would have said America lost and he won no matter the sentence.
I appreciate what you have to say as well. And I agree that we are polar opposites. I'm handsome, well-read, funny, good with kids, etc.