Pitchers and workloads

[johnsamo]

I don't always buy this pitch count crap. To me, it all depends on the pitcher and his mechanics. Guys who are arm-whippers yes, but guys who throw with good mechanics and use their legs for their power, they can throw a lot more. Look at how many innings Ryan through in the 70s.... He was still doing it 20 years later. Same with guys like Seaver...

[slomo007]

I agree to a point, there will always be extreme examples one way or another however. Guys like Ryan who should have thrown their arms off, and then guys like Prior with "perfect" mechanics who can't stay healthy longer than a few starts in a row it seems.

I think I am somewhere in the middle. If the pitcher is cruising and doesn't show signs of fatigue, leave him out there, even if it is 120 pitches or so. Obviously if he is struggling, it's time to get him out asap.

[MMoNeY24]

I think I am somewhere in the middle. If the pitcher is cruising and doesn't show signs of fatigue, leave him out there, even if it is 120 pitches or so. Obviously if he is struggling, it's time to get him out asap.

I agree with that. If a pitcher's throwing a ton of pitches, he's probably not cruising exactly, but if he's getting the job done and pitching effectively - there's no reason to take him out.

[giants!]

All the manager really needs is a reliever being up in the bullpen. If the pitchers pitches are not moving like they should, then he can be immediately replaced. However, if his pitchers are as sharp as te beginning of the game, then the manager should leave him in regardless of the amount of pitches that the pitcher has thrown