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Postby Besaid_Aurochs » Thu May 04, 2006 1:10 pm

HOOTIE wrote:
acsguitar wrote:I think Ichiro is the best all around player ever though


Nah. Not even close.


lol.

shut d0wn.
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Postby thedude » Thu May 04, 2006 2:34 pm

OhMrScottyTrav06 wrote:There were different circumstances in the 30's and 40's with war and racial discrimination as compared to the 60's and 70's with all the hippies and the vietnam war as compared with the 90's and 2000's with the steroids and watered down talent but the reliever specialists). It would be nice to distinguish Ruth from Williams from Mays from Aaron from Bonds from Pujols...etc...

You can't compare players from different eras. Your arguments have a lot of opinions and you really won't get anywhere.

Period.

End of Story.


That is why some stats account for era. Such as OPS+, EQA, Winshares, WARP.

They allow you to compare players of different eras.

These numbers won't settle all arguements but they help.
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Postby bossmao » Fri May 05, 2006 11:40 pm

YES !
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Postby Ender » Sat May 06, 2006 12:18 am

thedude wrote:
OhMrScottyTrav06 wrote:There were different circumstances in the 30's and 40's with war and racial discrimination as compared to the 60's and 70's with all the hippies and the vietnam war as compared with the 90's and 2000's with the steroids and watered down talent but the reliever specialists). It would be nice to distinguish Ruth from Williams from Mays from Aaron from Bonds from Pujols...etc...

You can't compare players from different eras. Your arguments have a lot of opinions and you really won't get anywhere.

Period.

End of Story.


That is why some stats account for era. Such as OPS+, EQA, Winshares, WARP.

They allow you to compare players of different eras.

These numbers won't settle all arguements but they help.


The problem is they don't do a good job of comparing players from different eras. They are flawed concepts.
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Postby Tavish » Sat May 06, 2006 12:51 am

Ender wrote:
thedude wrote:
OhMrScottyTrav06 wrote:There were different circumstances in the 30's and 40's with war and racial discrimination as compared to the 60's and 70's with all the hippies and the vietnam war as compared with the 90's and 2000's with the steroids and watered down talent but the reliever specialists). It would be nice to distinguish Ruth from Williams from Mays from Aaron from Bonds from Pujols...etc...

You can't compare players from different eras. Your arguments have a lot of opinions and you really won't get anywhere.

Period.

End of Story.


That is why some stats account for era. Such as OPS+, EQA, Winshares, WARP.

They allow you to compare players of different eras.

These numbers won't settle all arguements but they help.


The problem is they don't do a good job of comparing players from different eras. They are flawed concepts.


They don't compare players from different eras. They compare players against others from the same era (although some versions of WARP tries to force an era adjustment into the formula).
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