Havok1517 wrote:I firmly believe that Cobb wouldn't be much better if any better than Ichiro if he played today. You honestly think he'd bat over .400? No! Its pointless to argue.
I could honestly care less what Cobb would do today. The only worthwhile way to compare players is against other players of their era. When you are preoccupied with what somebody would do in a different era it makes the debate impossible. I don't think Cobb could hit .400 in this era the same as I don't think Ichiro would be much more than an average player in the 1910s.
The game is different and much harder today than it was in the early 1900's.
Debating which era is tougher is another fruitless argument. You think the game is harder now, I completely disagree. Apples and oranges. Today's game is a homerun or strikeout derby compared to the 1910s when it was a more strategical hit em where they aint. I don't think its harder to get up there and swing with everything you got and hope to make contact. I don't think its more difficult to play with oversized equipment, travel first class airlines between cities and stay at luxury hotels and not have to worry about life's everyday expenses.
I do think that today's atheletes are stronger, faster and have better training and conditioning. But I don't think that makes the game any tougher.
But saying that Ichiro compared to Cobb is like David DeJesus is a Mickey Mantle when the game has evolved and improved such much since then is ignorant and just a horrible comparison especially since DeJesus has only played about 3 years!
While I appreciate you considering my comments ignorant, the comparision is completely apt. Cobb dominated his league at level only a few players have done. Cobb, Wagner, Ruth, Williams, Bonds, Mantle, and Gehrig all have accomplished things against their peers that put them on extremely high plateau. In comparison to what they have done, Ichiro is about as dominating as David DeJesus.