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Postby IrishSox » Sat Apr 29, 2006 10:29 pm

Got the save last night, hasn't given up a run in 6 games, but got one K tonight, 2 walks, and in comes Roberto Hernandez?

Anyone see the game and how this went down? I waited on closers and he is my second.

Guy has pitched well and hasn't blown a safe yet. Many closers do a lot worse than walking 2 guys. Either way, not encouraging...
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Postby berdugoba » Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:46 am

I saw another post in the forum, said something about injury??? I think they were wondering if Mike had hurt himself in the game aswell.
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Postby beerman648 » Sun Apr 30, 2006 1:52 am

Mike Gonzalez was removed from a save opportunity after loading the bases with a run lead in the ninth against the Phillies tonight.

Gonzalez got only one out before leaving. Roberto Hernandez took over and got pinch-hitter Alex Gonzalez to ground into a double play for his second save. Gonzalez remains the Pirates' closer, but manager Jim Tracy could keep playing the percentages in the ninth inning at times. Since the Pirates aren't exactly the '27 Yankees, that might mean Gonzalez will fall short of 30 saves.

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Postby traxle » Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:05 pm

Tracy's not going to use Gonzalez as THE closer. He's still got a lot of value, but don't expect more than 25 saves.
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Postby Secret Avatar » Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:57 pm

This was not encouraging but it happens to the best of them. Some nights you just don't have your best stuff. :-/ I still think Gonzo is good for 25 saves. Mesa got 27 last year on the same team and 41 the year before.
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Postby IrishSox » Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:59 pm

It is just disconcerting that after 2 walks, men on first and second, he took him out. He had gotten 1 K.

Not like Hernandez blew them away, he walked a guy as well, and got a ground ball for a double play.

Could have been a matchup thing too, as he is a lefty.

Just get 25 saves!!!
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Postby Blakas » Mon May 01, 2006 1:06 am

I have Gonzo in my pool so not so happy to see he didn't get the save. Still, with wins so few and far between right now, you can't blame Tracey for giving him the hook when he starts to get in trouble in the ninth. Not great for his long-term development but understandable from a team looking to win some games.
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Postby AKhomebrewer » Mon May 01, 2006 2:06 am

IrishSox wrote:Could have been a matchup thing too, as he is a lefty.

Yes. This happened on Roberto's previous save ... the Bucs were facing a run of lefties in the 8th, so Gonzalez was sent in to get the 'hold', and Hernandez finished out the 9th against a slate of righties.
I'd expect this to continue periodically.
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Postby cool Daddy » Mon May 01, 2006 2:57 am

One thing is for sure.........Whoever Tracy sends in to close better throw strikes. Can't blame tracy for doing what he has to to win. They are the royals of the national league. Govzales i like orvella in a way....everyone just assumed he would close this year. Looks like fat hernandez will vulture plenty on a team with limited opps............Gonz has to be in the last tier of closers at this point.......As a Gozy owner i have lowered expectations. :-o
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Postby cy23young » Mon May 01, 2006 6:24 am

everyone assumed he was going to be the closer because tracy said gonzalez was his closer. He even compared him to gagne, talent wise in some article i read.
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