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Postby reiser » Sat Apr 29, 2006 8:49 am

does anyone know if PECOTA, or anyone for that matter, has a player similiarity index of current players?

for instance, something that would tell me who the most statistically similiar players are to Buerhle that are currently pitching?
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Postby Webster11 » Sat Apr 29, 2006 8:53 am

You have to be a member to see Pecotas, not sure about any others. But heres Buehrles similar pitchers -

1 Ken Holtzman 1973 54 11 Jim Kaat 1966 39
2 Jim Abbott 1994 53 12 Jon Matlack 1977 39
3 Tom Glavine 1993 50 13 Tommy John 1970 38
4 Rick Wise 1972 48 14 Bill Lee 1974 37
5 Brad Radke 2000 44 15 John Smiley 1992 36
6 Curt Simmons 1956 43 16 Javier Vazquez 2003 36
7 Jerry Reuss 1976 42 17 Mike Moore 1987 35
8 Bob Friend 1958 41 18 Bret Saberhagen 1991 35
9 Milt Pappas 1966 40 19 Dave McNally 1970 35
10 Claude Osteen 1966 39 20 Larry Dierker 1974 33
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Postby reiser » Sat Apr 29, 2006 8:56 am

[quote="Webster11"]You have to be a member to see Pecotas, not sure about any others. But heres Buehrles similar pitchers -

right...i am a member, but i'm just looking for current players that are similiar.
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Postby Webster11 » Sat Apr 29, 2006 9:10 am

reiser wrote:
Webster11 wrote:You have to be a member to see Pecotas, not sure about any others. But heres Buehrles similar pitchers -

right...i am a member, but i'm just looking for current players that are similiar.


Oh, I missed the current part. I dont think they have that, it would probably be too hard to make an accurate comparison using only current players
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Postby AcidRock23 » Sat Apr 29, 2006 11:53 am

Webster11 wrote:
reiser wrote:
Webster11 wrote:You have to be a member to see Pecotas, not sure about any others. But heres Buehrles similar pitchers -

right...i am a member, but i'm just looking for current players that are similiar.


Oh, I missed the current part. I dont think they have that, it would probably be too hard to make an accurate comparison using only current players


+1, I think that the data needs the historical depth to work.
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Postby nuggets » Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:04 pm

I believe PECOTA's similarity index is relative to what a player is likely to do in the upcoming season and is not based on who parallels another players career.
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baseball-reference.com?

Postby Grouperman941 » Sat Apr 29, 2006 9:38 pm

Be excellent to each other.
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Postby AcidRock23 » Sat Apr 29, 2006 9:43 pm

nuggets wrote:I believe PECOTA's similarity index is relative to what a player is likely to do in the upcoming season and is not based on who parallels another players career.


but the similar players are b/c the numbers are crunched through a database of ALL baseball players, age, park factors, %age of ethanol in bathtub gin and whatever other factors they use to compute an expected performance. That way, by adjusting for say the 'big mound era' during the 60s, you can 'adjust' the performance of those players playing then to get a feel for how they stack up to AND what they say about current players. It's good to compare say Aaron and Ruth or Bonds or whomever but it's also good to be able to compare Bonds massive stack of numbers with other 42 year old OF to perhaps set your expectation of whether or not the wheels come off. Then there's that Maddux guy... :-?
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Postby RynMan » Sat Apr 29, 2006 9:52 pm

AcidRock23 wrote:
reiser wrote:
Webster11 wrote:You have to be a member to see Pecotas, not sure about any others. But heres Buehrles similar pitchers -

right...i am a member, but i'm just looking for current players that are similiar.


Oh, I missed the current part. I dont think they have that, it would probably be too hard to make an accurate comparison using only current players


+1, I think that the data needs the historical depth to work.


That's my understanding.
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