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Postby mrmelo15 » Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:15 pm

What's his deal? Does anybody think he can turn it around and have a solid season? Can't hurt that he pitches at RFK.
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Postby EnFuego » Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:28 pm

I think all those innings finally put a toll on him. I remember the time he pitched more than a 150 in a game. 8-o
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Postby Ender » Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:34 pm

He has been slipping the past couple years now, it just hasn't fully shown in his ERA. I am not high on him at all.
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Postby crudbucket36 » Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:35 pm

I dropped him over 2 weeks ago and no one has even bothered to touch the guy. He's done as far as fantasy is concerned.
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Postby PlayingWithFire » Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:40 pm

he'll be fine

4-4.50 ERA
200+ innings
12-15 wins
150k
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Postby Ender » Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:48 pm

PlayingWithFire wrote:he'll be fine

4-4.50 ERA
200+ innings
12-15 wins
150k


Those numbers are reasonable but you have to add a 1.38-1.42 WHIP to it. In a yahoo default type league thats not a pitcher worth owning unless you are spot starting him at home against poor offenses only. In a deeper league or NL only league he has some value as a back of your rotation guy.
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Postby PlayingWithFire » Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:50 pm

Ender wrote:
PlayingWithFire wrote:he'll be fine

4-4.50 ERA
200+ innings
12-15 wins
150k


Those numbers are reasonable but you have to add a 1.38-1.42 WHIP to it. In a yahoo default type league thats not a pitcher worth owning unless you are spot starting him at home against poor offenses only. In a deeper league or NL only league he has some value as a back of your rotation guy.


was he anything more than that last year? :-?

you have to expect some regression right?
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Postby great gretzky » Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:57 pm

only thing is, he is GREAT (well, was) in that type of role. guy is just a workhorse who didn't get lit up. if you factored his whip in to your plans, it wasn't a biggie. Plus, he always had a stretch of good ball, so you could almost always offer him up with a good bat and upgrade your hitting if you timed it right.
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Postby Scout » Fri Apr 28, 2006 5:17 pm

Check the teams he has faced:

@NYM, NYM
@PHI
@HOU (Enron)
CIN

And next matchup is St. Louis.

Those are some great offensive teams. I plan on benching him when the matchup is unfavorable, but I think when he faces some mediocre hitting teams he should be fine.
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Postby ingov » Fri Apr 28, 2006 5:55 pm

Scout wrote:Check the teams he has faced:

@NYM, NYM
@PHI
@HOU (Enron)
CIN

And next matchup is St. Louis.

Those are some great offensive teams. I plan on benching him when the matchup is unfavorable, but I think when he faces some mediocre hitting teams he should be fine.


good point. Livan seems to get written off every year but he always seems to find his way onto fantasy lineups and provide some useful production. Curb your expectations and play the matchups/hot streaks, especially at RFK.
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