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Postby Half Massed » Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:06 am

I got the impression that he wasn't alone on the lane. If he was bowling with others on the same lane and they didn't get any major score boosts, wouldn't that kind of discount the rigged lane idea?
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Postby Madison » Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:28 am

Half Massed wrote:I got the impression that he wasn't alone on the lane. If he was bowling with others on the same lane and they didn't get any major score boosts, wouldn't that kind of discount the rigged lane idea?


He wasn't alone on the lane. However, the ability of the rest of the team, and the ability of his team's opponents would determine the answer to your question. As I said earlier, lanes can be rigged to a certain degree without anyone knowing, but not so easy that anyone with a ball will shoot something unbelieveable. Also, it seems he's a pretty good bowler anyway (his wife as well--who didn't bowl that night), so less "stacking" would be required in order to "aid" him to a high series.
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Postby JTWood » Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:31 pm

Madison wrote:
Arlo wrote:
Madison wrote:Two of them in the same center? Only 9 shot in the history of the game (billions of games shot) and two of the nine came from that center?

This wouldn't happen to be that center that you can win in a tournament, would it? :-D

By the way, wouldn't a previous approved 900 at the same place actually raise the odds of this one not getting tossed out? It would seem like the lanes have already been declared legitimiate (but then again, I have no idea of what actually goes into the review process).


Haha :-D . No, they were not shot at the "center" that you can win in a tournament. I quote "center" since it's only got 6 lanes. Makes it a bit hard for me to call it a "center" when the pro tour carts around 4 lanes week to week for the arena finals that are televised.

As to the previous 900, yes, it was approved (sorry I didn't make that clear guys), however it makes things seem awfully fishy for a second one to happen. Imagine the same person winning the lottery twice. Here in Texas, it's something like 4.5 BILLION to one to win, so while it's possible, it's highly unlikely.

I hate to say it, or even think it, as I hope the guy truely accomplished the feat and gets the award. However, it's not too hard to "stack" the lanes for high scores. I can rig any pair of lanes in the world where people will shoot out of their minds. It won't pass a USBC inspection, and no one would know without an in depth inspection, but the scores would be shot.

A couple of easy ways to "stack" lanes is simply to groove the wood (or tilt the synthetic lanes). In other words, sand a path into the lane for the ball to travel on and tilt both sides of the groove to help the ball get into that track line where the groove is. It takes nothing to do, and wouldn't be visable to anyone. No one would know, only a machine scanning the level of each board across the lanes would be able to pick up on it. As a side note, several centers have lost their sanctions due to grooves in the lanes. Wood lanes will have grooves after extended play (thousands of games), so if a center doesn't resurface, or replace their lanes occasionally, the wood itself will fall out of specifications.

The addition to the groove would be the oil pattern. There are specifications as to how much and how little oil can be placed on the lanes, and how far down or how short the pattern can be run. Ever notice there's always more oil on the inside part of the lane than there is on the outside part? It's a typical crown shot that most centers use during open play and the conditions are made a bit tougher for leagues, but usually it's still a crown condition. Anyway, the oil can be placed (or not placed) strategically to "help" the ball get into the groove where it has no choice but to hit the pocket and strike.

Imagine the green of a golf course. Now imagine that it's a perfect circle around, and the hole is at the center, which also happens to be the lowest part of the green. A perfect cylinder, like a funnel. You tee off and the ball lands on the green. It's got no choice but to fall in the hole. The same can be done for bowling, just to a lesser extent.

The bowler would still have to be good enough to toss 36 consecutive shots within a board or two of each other at 45 feet down the lane (lanes are 60 feet long by the way---and a board is an inch wide, so we're talking about tossing 36 consecutive shots 45 feet away and being within 1 or 2 inches max of differential), but should he/she be able to do it, a huge score would definitely happen, including a possible 900.

Anyhow, I hope it stands up for the guy and gets approved. I'd be pretty depressed if I thought I shot a 900 and then came to find out that I only did it because the lanes were "stacked". :-/

Sounds to me like someone's bitter they didn't shoot a 900... ;-7 :-D
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Postby Madison » Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:13 am

JTWood wrote:Sounds to me like someone's bitter they didn't shoot a 900... ;-7 :-D


Truthfully, I'm not sure I'd want to shoot one. :-?

Everything else would be a let down. I could never beat it. Granted, I could try to be the first one to do it twice, but to know I could never beat a score I had already posted, might take something away from the game for me. Don't misunderstand, I'm still trying to shoot one, and I'll give it everything I've got to get one, but I'm not sitting around wishing I had one either. ;-) If it happens, it happens. I'll deal with it then. For now, I just do the best I can and see what happens from there. :-)
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Postby Arlo » Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:39 pm

Madison wrote:A couple of easy ways to "stack" lanes is simply to groove the wood (or tilt the synthetic lanes). In other words, sand a path into the lane for the ball to travel on and tilt both sides of the groove to help the ball get into that track line where the groove is. It takes nothing to do, and wouldn't be visable to anyone.

I'm taking some sandpaper with me the next time I hit the lanes! :-D

Thanks for the explanation, Mad!
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Postby Madison » Fri May 12, 2006 1:54 am

Just an update on this, but I got word today that USBC (United States Bowling Congress) did in fact approve this 900 series. ;-D

On a sidenote, he becomes the oldest bowler to shoot a sanctioned 900 series. Oldest prior to this was 30. The newspaper I got about it lists Wukoman at 50 years of age. ;-D
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