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Postby mweir145 » Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:30 pm

No, Roy Halladay is (not fantasy-wise of course, you give that mark to Johan).
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Postby great gretzky » Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:13 pm

you know sometimes the wisdom of the aggregate is more telling than we like to admit.

People can be sheep, but sometimes common wisdom has its uses.

They are both quality. I'm taking oswalt.

It's not fair, since some guys can't make the playoffs through no fault of their own. But we have seen what oswalt can do against the best competition in more pressure-packed situations.

Oswalt's single season and career stats are really hard to deny.
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Postby brandnew » Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:54 pm

If I were starting a Major League team, this is who I'd pick, in order:

1. Johan Santana
2. Roy Halladay
3. Ben Sheets
4. Jake Peavy
5. Chris Carpenter
6. Roy Oswalt
7. Rich Harden
8. Felix Hernandez
9. Carlos Zambrano
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Postby Jbyrdo » Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:56 pm

I'm surprised Rich Harden hasn't been brought up more in this debate. I think he would be top 3 in real life if he could stay healthy.
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Postby Los_Dodgers » Thu Apr 27, 2006 9:42 pm

I think that it goes in this order: Halladay, Johan, Oswalt, Harden, Sheets.
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Postby liv4socr20 » Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:54 pm

schilling maddux glavine no argument.......... of course im kidding but its really hard to justify numbers 5 starts into the season especially when Johan gets his first win of the season today. I think this topic would have been better off around the 10th start when the pitchers really have a feel for the season and you can more or less see what level there pitching at
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Postby Havok1517 » Fri Apr 28, 2006 12:00 am

If I had to choose any pitcher to win 1 game in real baseball it would Oswalt, no question. Santana's numbers (he does give up the long ball) playing in Houston wouldn't be as good as him playing for Min.
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Postby brandnew » Fri Apr 28, 2006 12:09 am

If we're talking for the present Pedro must be thrown into that top 5...
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Postby YardBirds » Fri Apr 28, 2006 7:06 am

l would take Halladay over all of them... healthy he is damn near untouchable.

As far as health being a concern... if lm building the Charleston BlahBlah's and need an Ace... l gotta take Johan... he is the definition of an ace.

lf he wasn't available... gotta take Oswalt... the guy just pitches to win.

lf he was gone also... gotta take Pedro...

and if the Mets weren't trading... then l gotta take Sheets

so my Top 5

Johan
Halladay
Oswalt
Pedro <--- if he's to old, bump Sheets up... put in Prior or Patterson
Sheets

after that... Patterson, Prior, Harden... well its just a mess b/c they all have great stuff... then you got the hot heads and still learners... Zambrano, Peavy, Felix... etc
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Postby mweir145 » Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:22 am

Damon and Jeter on Roy Halladay after tonight's game:

TSN.ca wrote:When he's healthy, he's as good as any pitcher in baseball," said Derek Jeter, who had a pair of hits to stretch his hitting streak to seven games.

"He's the best pitcher in the American League, period," said Johnny Damon. "Fortunately, he didn't have his A game. That shows how good he is."


Damon's right though, Halladay hasn't really pitched like himself this year, he's been leaving a few starts after only 5 because his pitch count has been getting close to 100. It really doesn't look like he's 100% healthy yet, but he's still managed a 2.84 ERA agaisnt 3 of the better hitting teams in baseball.

If Halladay is healthy, it will be interesting to see who the AL Cy Young winner will be this year. With Harden's injury, Johan, Buerhle and Halladay look to be the top 3 favourites.
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