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Postby crazybob60 » Sun Jul 20, 2003 11:23 pm

Can someone give me a definition of this please???
And also did Mussina qualify for one today???
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Postby red » Sun Jul 20, 2003 11:26 pm

standard definition:
6 or more IP, 3 or less ER. No, it is no longer a QS if the pitcher gives up a fourth run in an inning later than the sixth. His line must be 3 ER or less and 6IP or more.
I don't know what mussina did today, so I can't comment on that
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Postby jdh » Sun Jul 20, 2003 11:32 pm

Mussina had 3 ER in 6.2 innings, so yes, that is a quality start.
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Postby DieHardCubbie » Sun Jul 20, 2003 11:35 pm

Thanks jdh and red....I was trying to find the official definition but couldn't...I think you both are right.... ;-D
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Postby crazybob60 » Sun Jul 20, 2003 11:36 pm

Thanks guys, I was down by 2.5 and with that info, I won for this week.
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Postby HOOTIE » Sun Jul 20, 2003 11:49 pm

Personally, i think the definition of a quality start is stupid. One, 6 innings 3 runs, is a 4.50 era. Why reward a guy for that? Thats over the league era btw. Two, it would have to be altered for the hitting era at the time. Imagine if used in the 60s. Third, why penalize a guy for 9 innings 4 runs (4 era), but reward a guy for 3 in 6 (4.50 era)?
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Postby red » Mon Jul 21, 2003 12:07 am

HOOTIE wrote:Personally, i think the definition of a quality start is stupid. One, 6 innings 3 runs, is a 4.50 era. Why reward a guy for that? Thats over the league era btw. Two, it would have to be altered for the hitting era at the time. Imagine if used in the 60s. Third, why penalize a guy for 9 innings 4 runs (4 era), but reward a guy for 3 in 6 (4.50 era)?


Well, you're not wrong here, but in terms of pitchers stats, I prefer a QS to a "win" stat. If someone ends up with a 4.5 ERA and 25 QS, then I guess I'm a moron-- that's not good-- but in most cases, historically speaking, the QS's go to the best pitchers (who end up with lower ERAs than 4.5, but you're right, 4.5 is high if someone were to take it on a game by game basis); secondly, the WIN has so much to do with the team the pitcher plays for that in the league I run I wanted to make pitchers on less-impressive teams still useful fantasy pitchers. See Adam Eaton or Oliver Perez or any of a few. In our league we give 4 pts for a QS and 5 for a win, which means, in essence, you don't get a really good night out of your pithcer unless you get both a QS and a win, which seems fair. Those 6ER wins drive me crazy when someone gets a ton of points for them.
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Postby jdh » Mon Jul 21, 2003 12:13 am

I like the QS stat, but I think it would be more useful if it was modified to:

pitcher must allow 3 ER or less in 6 or more innings, or 4 ER or less in 8 or more innings.

That would eliminate the punishment of pitchers for going deep into games but allowing another run
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