There's very little thoughtless rambling in this thread. Everyone pretty much agrees that Giles isn't horrible and he isn't great. In the 17th round he's a fine pickup. Draft him there and start him when he's away from Petco. I'd draft Giles in the 17th round myself - and I wouldn't whine about his mediocrity. In the 10th or 11th round, he isn't fine. He's most likely a bad pick. He is also rather old, and is becoming more and more likely to decline further, so he's an even worse 'mid round' pick with the age risk thrown in. In 5x5s, if you can get him late, do it, and use him at what he's good for: a platoon away from Petco. If you're like me (and i know many owners are) and you draft power into your outfield, then 15 home runs on the season is absolutely unacceptable, and 85ish rbi is replacement level. With the quality of pickups available at of over the course of the season he's simply not a legit fulltime start in a 12 teamer. Guys like Giles and Holliday can be assets if acquired cheaply and used judiciously, but to burn something like a tenth or eleventh rounder (around where ive seen them go in my drafts) is idiocy. To the original poster...nice job grabbing him in #17, but as you're finding out, he did slip for a reason.