I'll start things off.
Because they dropped in the draft (12th and 13th rounds, I think), I gambled on Mark Prior AND Roger Clemens.
My closers? Eric Gagne and Armando Benitez.
Outfielders Aubrey Huff and Jeremy Hermida bring my team to a grand total of six guys who aren't playing right now.
My current No. 2 starter behind Randy Johnson is Tim Hudson.
My current closers are Fernando Rodney and Joe Borowski.
Oh, and I'm still waiting for that first Bonds homer ...
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In my head to h2h matchup last week my opponent had Chris Ray and I had Javy Lopez. Chris Ray came in a game against Tampa in a save situation and pitched lights out! Save right? Nooo he was awarded Win because previous pitcher was "ineffective"
I ended up tieing for wins instead of winning them.
Lopezs bonehead play cost me rbi no big deal except I lost RBIs by one!
duckbillgates wrote:I'll start things off. Because they dropped in the draft (12th and 13th rounds, I think), I gambled on Mark Prior AND Roger Clemens. My closers? Eric Gagne and Armando Benitez. Outfielders Aubrey Huff and Jeremy Hermida bring my team to a grand total of six guys who aren't playing right now. My current No. 2 starter behind Randy Johnson is Tim Hudson. My current closers are Fernando Rodney and Joe Borowski. Oh, and I'm still waiting for that first Bonds homer ...
This team is 2-22 in H2HWS play <pre>
B. McCann Jo. Santana
R. Howard J. Smoltz
C. Figgins B. Penny
E. Encarnación J. Vargas
J. Peralta S. Baker
H. Matsui
A. Kearns
J. Lane T. Hoffman
J. Morneau E. Guardado
G. Sizemore J. Putz
J. Gibbons K. Wood
I. Kinsler J. Kennedy
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Pochucker wrote:In my head to h2h matchup last week my opponent had Chris Ray and I had Javy Lopez. Chris Ray came in a game against Tampa in a save situation and pitched lights out! Save right? Nooo he was awarded Win because previous pitcher was "ineffective" I ended up tieing for wins instead of winning them. Lopezs bonehead play cost me rbi no big deal except I lost RBIs by one!
That one has struck me as odd before. Please elaborate on how the official game scorers decide on the criteria for that one.
"Son we would like to keep you around here but were trying to win a pennant this year."
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(a) Credit the starting pitcher with a game won only if he has pitched at least five complete innings and his team not only is in the lead then he is replaced but remains in the lead the remainder of the game. (b) The "must pitch five complete innings" rule in respect to the starting pitcher shall be in effect for all games of six or more innings. In a five inning game, credit the starting pitcher with a game won if he has pitched at least four complete innings and his team not only is in the lead when he is replaced but remains in the lead the remainder of the game. (c) When the starting pitcher cannot be credited with the victory because of the provisions of 10.19 (a) or (b) and more than one relief pitcher is used, the victory shall be awarded on the following basis: (1) When, during the tenure of the starting pitcher, the winning team assumes the lead and maintains it to the finish of the game, credit the victory to the relief pitcher judged by the scorer to have been the most effective; (2) Whenever the score is tied the game becomes a new contest insofar as the winning and losing pitcher is concerned; (3) Once the opposing team assumes the lead all pitchers who have pitched up to that point are excluded from being credited with the victory except that if the pitcher against whose pitching the opposing team gained the lead
continues to pitch until his team regains the lead, which it holds to the finish of the game, that pitcher shall be the winning pitcher; (4) The winning relief pitcher shall be the one who is the pitcher of record when his team assumes the lead and maintains it to the finish of the game. EXCEPTION: Do not credit a victory to a relief pitcher who is ineffective in a brief appearance, when a succeeding relief pitcher pitches effectively in helping his team maintain the lead. In such cases, credit the succeeding relief pitcher with the victory.
I believe it is totally subjective and there are no objective standards that I know of....
I only wondered because in late 2003 B. Fuentes came on in the bottom of the 9th with a runner on base and 2 outs while protecting a 1 run lead.
The Rockies where a run down going into the top of the 9th before taking an ensuing 3 run lead. The previous pitching reliever who started off the bottom of the 9th INN and hadn’t pitched in the 8th INN, whom I also forget the name of, gave up 2 runs and allowed a base runner before being pulled for Fuentes.
Fuentes got the out and preserved the win but was credited with the win instead of the save. I hadn’t figured that one out until now.
Thanks man.
"Son we would like to keep you around here but were trying to win a pennant this year."