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Postby Giants7830 » Thu Apr 20, 2006 12:16 am

For everyone who has Coco on your team expect this injury to highly affect his numbers BE CAUCIOUS!!!
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Postby dipset » Thu Apr 20, 2006 12:25 am

Giants7830 wrote:For everyone who has Coco on your team expect this injury to highly affect his numbers BE CAUCIOUS!!!


How much will this injury affect his numbers? A lot, A little, Or not att all?
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Postby dipset » Thu Apr 20, 2006 12:25 am

Giants7830 wrote:For everyone who has Coco on your team expect this injury to highly affect his numbers BE CAUCIOUS!!!


Affect his numbers a lot a little or not at all?
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Postby Giants7830 » Thu Apr 20, 2006 12:28 am

Im thinking a fair amount,expect him not to hit as many HR as normal and he may have a little trouble sliding when he comes back
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Postby Chicago RedSox » Thu Apr 20, 2006 9:23 am

Giants7830 wrote:Im thinking a fair amount,expect him not to hit as many HR as normal and he may have a little trouble sliding when he comes back


I certainly hope noone drafted Coco for his HR capabilities... I'd like to see him take an extra week or so to let that hand fully heel. But I think he'll be back to his old self fairly quickly.
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Postby The Loveable Losers » Thu Apr 20, 2006 9:53 am

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Giants7830 wrote:Im thinking a fair amount,expect him not to hit as many HR as normal and he may have a little trouble sliding when he comes back


I certainly hope noone drafted Coco for his HR capabilities... I'd like to see him take an extra week or so to let that hand fully heel. But I think he'll be back to his old self fairly quickly.


His hr's are definitely a part of why most people would draft him. Getting 15/15 or 20/20 guys that put up good r/ave is MUCH better than getting a guy like Kenny Lofton that will put up the sb's/r/ave but absolutely no power. Crisp's hr's (and the fact that he hits lead-off for Boston) is the difference between being a valuable commodity and being on the FA list in some leagues (as Kenny Lofton happens to be).

Other than less playing time for Lofton over the last 3 years there's not a lot of difference between their roto stats (Crisp: .289/.332/.425 with 11/73/55/16 versus Lofton's .303/.361/.424 with 4/53/25/14 in MUCH less playing time...297 versus 499 ab's). As you can see there you're giving up quite a bit in the r/rbi department but that's simply the fact that Lofton had been platooning and is now an everyday player. Sb's were about the same and again in MUCH less playing time. Lofton even hit for a higher average and obp.

The difference is that Lofton is a pure speed guy and Crisp has some power upside. Without the power upside there Crisp becomes a poor man's Kenny Lofton whose value is then solely tied to the fact that he's (a) younger and healthier than Lofton and (b) batting leadoff for an offensive juggernaut.
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Postby dipset » Sun Apr 23, 2006 6:58 pm

Any updates yet on when he'll be back?
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Postby orakana » Sun Apr 23, 2006 9:18 pm

Chicago RedSox wrote:
Giants7830 wrote:Im thinking a fair amount,expect him not to hit as many HR as normal and he may have a little trouble sliding when he comes back


I certainly hope noone drafted Coco for his HR capabilities... I'd like to see him take an extra week or so to let that hand fully heel. But I think he'll be back to his old self fairly quickly.


Exactly, who drafts crisp for homers, I know i got him for batting average and the hits. That won't drop off a whole lot because of the injury.
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Postby Dan Lambskin » Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:26 am

orakana wrote:
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Giants7830 wrote:Im thinking a fair amount,expect him not to hit as many HR as normal and he may have a little trouble sliding when he comes back


I certainly hope noone drafted Coco for his HR capabilities... I'd like to see him take an extra week or so to let that hand fully heel. But I think he'll be back to his old self fairly quickly.


Exactly, who drafts crisp for homers, I know i got him for batting average and the hits. That won't drop off a whole lot because of the injury.


umm...probably everybody who drafted him counting on his 15-20 HR and 20+ SB potential...otherwise you just wait and draft Willy Tavares. if he wasnt projected to hit 20 HR he probably doesnt even get drafted in a lot of leagues
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Postby orakana » Mon Apr 24, 2006 1:05 pm

Dan Lambskin wrote:
orakana wrote:
Chicago RedSox wrote:
Giants7830 wrote:Im thinking a fair amount,expect him not to hit as many HR as normal and he may have a little trouble sliding when he comes back


I certainly hope noone drafted Coco for his HR capabilities... I'd like to see him take an extra week or so to let that hand fully heel. But I think he'll be back to his old self fairly quickly.


Exactly, who drafts crisp for homers, I know i got him for batting average and the hits. That won't drop off a whole lot because of the injury.


umm...probably everybody who drafted him counting on his 15-20 HR and 20+ SB potential...otherwise you just wait and draft Willy Tavares. if he wasnt projected to hit 20 HR he probably doesnt even get drafted in a lot of leagues


I don't know about that, I've watched him for years now and I don't know about this number potential. It's amazing how he just gets better because he's on the red sox. Anybody that thought he'd be Babe Ruth Crisp needs a reality check. He's an average guy with good on base and the occasional steal, the homer thing, I don't know about that with the monster and other than the right field line a decently large outfield in fenway, that's a long way for coco to hit one.

He'll still be solid when he comes back but this 20 homer stuff is just a little bit to much to ask for me. There's plenty of other guys out there on his same level that you an plug in for him.
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