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Postby johnsamo » Fri Apr 14, 2006 5:19 pm

I know the stats say it's probably Mariano, but remember, he gets a lot more chances because of the Yanks....

When I was a kid, Lee Smith of the cubs was the man. He was really intimidating both physically and with his pitches, a super fastball and an occasssional nasty slider. When he hit the mound, you could tell the other side didn't want to go up to bat.

One other thing you'll never see in the stats, we has the slowest walker from the bullpen ever. It was like slow motion watching him get to the mound, and then boom, he'd blow fastballs by you.
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Postby matmat » Fri Apr 14, 2006 5:25 pm

it's rivera. no, wait, it's gagne, no.. no.... wait, it must be erickson.... oh, sorry my mistake, it is clearly john smoltz.... or maybe that other john, what was his last name? rocker? yeah, that's it. best closer of all time was john rocker...


as an aside, my understanding was that the # of save chances doesn't differ very much from team to team.
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Postby MMoNeY24 » Fri Apr 14, 2006 5:43 pm

Rivera is the best closer of all time.

Hoffman stinks. :-)
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Postby Lenny Dykstra » Fri Apr 14, 2006 5:45 pm

I vote for Dennis Eckersley.
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Postby Havok1517 » Fri Apr 14, 2006 5:49 pm

Well, I don't like this topic because right now there are probably around 50 starting pitchers in MLB that could easily be good to great closers. Roger Clemens and Randy Johnson could probably pitch another 10 years if they ever wanted to close. Guys like Goose, Eck, Lee, and Fingers all usually pitched more than 1 inning back when they closed which takes away from Hoffman, Rivera, & Wagner. Granted certain presures are present at the end of a game compared to the beginning of 1 but really how hard is it to get 3 guys out? I'm going to go with [b]Eck [/b]because he was an effective starter and worked much harder for his saves. But seriously any elite starter would more often than not transform into a a good closer. I don't know how closers get so overrated outside fantasy realms. Rich Harden and Jake Peavy would be stud closers but are far more valuable starting.
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Postby PBRmeASAP » Fri Apr 14, 2006 5:50 pm

Guys that come to mind right away...

Eck
Rivera
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Postby DGroundhog » Fri Apr 14, 2006 5:56 pm

Eck.

Rivera is no better than Hoffman, and I think there are a number of younger guys better than both.
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Postby beatdrum » Fri Apr 14, 2006 6:00 pm

matmat wrote:it's rivera. no, wait, it's gagne, no.. no.... wait, it must be erickson.... oh, sorry my mistake, it is clearly john smoltz.... or maybe that other john, what was his last name? rocker? yeah, that's it. best closer of all time was john rocker...


as an aside, my understanding was that the # of save chances doesn't differ very much from team to team.


Erickson??
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Postby acsguitar » Fri Apr 14, 2006 6:00 pm

Rivera has closed for like 11 years on 1 pitch.

Its Rivera
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Postby sharksfan1139 » Fri Apr 14, 2006 6:01 pm

Ecks hands down


then Rivera
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