kentx12 wrote: HOOTIE wrote:
SHOCKandAWE wrote:The part that confuses me is how people can continue to stick up and defend him when all the signs point to him taking roids.
The point of this is if Bonds lied under oath, he should go to jail. But this shouldn't change his legacy?
I dont believe you have to worry about abything changing Bond's lagacy. He will always be remembered as the worst black eye that baseball has ever seen. You can bring up the black sox
and everyone else that you want who has given baseball a bad name but look how the majority of true adult baseball fans
despise this so called man. People will always remember Bonds and history will help pass this along as he being a cheater, liar, drug abuser and someone who got caught in all his lies. I dont care if he goes to jail or what happens to him as long as he just goes away and I believe that most people agree. Did anyone else see the thousands of fans booing him and chanting nasty things at him last night as soon as he took the field? I just want him out of baseball before he passes 2 of the all time greatest baseball players in the history of the game and hopefully something will happen to him be it jail, suspension, or injury to keep that from happening.
You lack credibility.
And the ability to spell. It shows you are speaking from a raw, emotional, primal, unrefined and uneducated disposition which has not bee properly been kept in check by the logical and objective side of the human mind.
I find the majority of true adult baseball fans, the ones who understand it's history, the eras and how to adjust the stats to be in clear favor of leaving records untouched. And I've done a lot of listening and researching lately.
Just because thousands of people boo means essentially nothing in terms of record keeping kentx.
Your problem is you don't understand what stats and records are for. The purpose is to accumulate specific records of events that happened during a specified timeframe. The actual value
of the record which is recorded is subject to millions of adjustments when compared other records from other timeframes. Obviously there are adjustments for this era as there are pre and post height adjustments of the mound. It doesn't matter if Bonds gets some type of new age stem-cell therapy and becomes a cyborg who hits 100 HR a season for the next 20 years, the data is recorded and when compared to other data it is properly adjusted. Those that have business in regulating MLB stat recording understand that the initial raw data should not be altered. All data should be in a consistent and controlled environment when it is adjusted to be compared to data from other timeframes or conditions, it should not subject to political manipulation.
Think of it this way kentx, if you change the settings on your new 2K6 baseball game from hard to easy at set a new high in HR on a dynasty team you have to consider the conditions of the record if you want to know the true worth of the record. Hence, Jimmie Foxx's 1932 & '33 and Gerigh’s 1927 & '34 are greater accomplishments than Bonds 73 HR in 2001.
You have no business manipulating the recording of facts.
You do have business in arguing the value of the recorded facts.
i.e. IMHO Gehrig’s 1927 is over-inflated, even in "properly" adjusted terms, because he was apart of possibly the greatest offensive lineup ever. Talk about protection and worn out pitchers!
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