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Postby phaedrus » Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:45 pm

So I was watching the game last night, and it seemed like Livan was stuck throwing in the low 80's. Is this normal for him? Does he have a fastball?

He even had a couple in the low 60's!

Will he be effective this year, or should I be thinking to trade?
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Postby teddy ballgame » Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:48 pm

I sure hope he'll be effective. Our league counts CG...I need him. :-o
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Postby bleach168 » Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:41 pm

Dude, that's normal for Livian.
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Re: Liván Hernández velocity?

Postby jh2031 » Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:44 pm

phaedrus wrote:So I was watching the game last night, and it seemed like Livan was stuck throwing in the low 80's. Is this normal for him? Does he have a fastball?

He even had a couple in the low 60's!

Will he be effective this year, or should I be thinking to trade?


If you've watched Livan before, you know the ones in the 60's are his real slow curves that usually make hitters look silly...i.e. Delgado.
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Postby tgalv » Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:48 pm

i don't remember seeing livan pitch recently so i was wondering the same thing. looked like his fastball was 80-82. espn's scouting report says he throws in the high 80s. who knows when they wrote that. even if it's a few years old, that type of velocity drop is kinda concerning.
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Postby thedude » Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:59 pm

tgalv wrote:i don't remember seeing livan pitch recently so i was wondering the same thing. looked like his fastball was 80-82. espn's scouting report says he throws in the high 80s. who knows when they wrote that. even if it's a few years old, that type of velocity drop is kinda concerning.


Livan is a throw back pitcher. Old School pitchers only threw the hard stuff when they really needed it and paced themselves otherwise. By using this strategy he is able to pitch all those innings.

Nothing to worry about. Just Livan being Livan. :-D
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Postby Steve-o » Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:29 pm

thedude wrote:
tgalv wrote:i don't remember seeing livan pitch recently so i was wondering the same thing. looked like his fastball was 80-82. espn's scouting report says he throws in the high 80s. who knows when they wrote that. even if it's a few years old, that type of velocity drop is kinda concerning.


Livan is a throw back pitcher. Old School pitchers only threw the hard stuff when they really needed it and paced themselves otherwise. By using this strategy he is able to pitch all those innings.

Nothing to worry about. Just Livan being Livan. :-D


Livan is actually a pretty cool pitcher. Total rubber arm. I read somewhere that he generally only puts about 80% behind most of his pitches. I always wondered what he would be like if he put 100% behind every pitch.
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Postby Jugemc » Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:51 pm

Steve-o wrote:
Livan is actually a pretty cool pitcher. Total rubber arm. I read somewhere that he generally only puts about 80% behind most of his pitches. I always wondered what he would be like if he put 100% behind every pitch.


well he would probably be amazing for 4 or 5 innings but he woudlnt be able to throw 130 pitches.
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Postby AT » Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:21 pm

He's one of my favorite pitchers to watch. Amazing how a guy can be such an artist out there. El Duque is exactly the same way and he's my favorite Yankee pitcher I've ever seen. I don't remember seeing Livan ever throw hard except for a little while when he was with the Marlins.
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Postby thedude » Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:36 pm

AT wrote:El Duque is exactly the same way and he's my favorite Yankee pitcher I've ever seen.


They are brothers. So i assume they were taught to pitch by the same people.
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