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Postby CHE » Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:31 am

This is Rodneys time to shine, you think the Tigers care if a 38 year old closes. Its not like hes getten piad 55 mill over 5 years. If Rodney is lights out the next 2 weeks, he aint going no where. And Jones is 38 :-o Who knows how hes gona heal.
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Postby Blakas » Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:34 am

If Rodney is lights out, Detroit'll still keep him in set-up.

The bullpen otherwise is pretty terrible. (Except for Zumaya).
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Postby CHE » Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:36 am

Blakas wrote:If Rodney is lights out, Detroit'll still keep him in set-up.

The bullpen otherwise is pretty terrible. (Except for Zumaya).


And thats the type of managing that keeps your team losing.
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Postby Blakas » Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:44 am

No. It is the type of managing that believes you have to hold a lead in order to win a ball game.

If Jones comes back and shows himself to be reliable, it is a smarter move to let him close and let heir apparent Rodney shift to the set-up role.

Alternatively, you have spent $11M on a guy who may underperform because he is not given the opportunity to prove himself in a job he was hired to do.

It is not a question of stupidly putting an underqualified player in a role because he is being paid a lot of money. It is a question of giving a player a chance to do a job he was paid to do.

Also, players losing their job due to injury is never popular in the clubhouse.
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Postby CHE » Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:55 am

Blakas wrote:No. It is the type of managing that believes you have to hold a lead in order to win a ball game.

If Jones comes back and shows himself to be reliable, it is a smarter move to let him close and let heir apparent Rodney shift to the set-up role.

Alternatively, you have spent $11M on a guy who may underperform because he is not given the opportunity to prove himself in a job he was hired to do.

It is not a question of stupidly putting an underqualified player in a role because he is being paid a lot of money. It is a question of giving a player a chance to do a job he was paid to do.

Also, players losing their job due to injury is never popular in the clubhouse.


You have to be joking, 11 mill is nothing for a MR now. ANd it wouldnt be hard ot trade him at all star break with the price for pitchers now. And plus hes 38 , you really think hes gona be closing next year???
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Postby Blakas » Wed Apr 05, 2006 12:05 pm

Are you kidding?

$5M is a LOT OF MONEY for a middle reliever.

Salaries of last year's top set-up men:

Tom Gordon - $3.75M
Julian Tavarez - $2.6M
Scott Eyre - $1.54M

Either you own Rodney in your pool and are hopeful or are simply ignoring the reality of the situation.

If Todd Jones returns shortly, he will get a chance. How successful he will be with this chance is another matter.
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Postby CHE » Wed Apr 05, 2006 12:11 pm

Blakas wrote:Are you kidding?

$5M is a LOT OF MONEY for a middle reliever.

Salaries of last year's top set-up men:

Tom Gordon - $3.75M
Julian Tavarez - $2.6M
Scott Eyre - $1.54M

Either you own Rodney in your pool and are hopeful or are simply ignoring the reality of the situation.

If Todd Jones returns shortly, he will get a chance. How successful he will be with this chance is another matter.


How much did Fransworth ge ti nthe off season??

Julian Taverarez is a nut case, who should never get paid that much. Tom Gordon arm is pretty much ridden off.


Go look at the Padres bullpen and see how much money is in it ;-7
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Postby Blakas » Wed Apr 05, 2006 12:13 pm

You got me on Farnsworth.
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Postby Dan Lambskin » Wed Apr 05, 2006 1:47 pm

Blakas wrote:You got me on Farnsworth.


yeah, but that's the Yankees...they overspend for everyone

Bottom line: the Tigers wouldnt have signed Jones to be their closer if they thought Rodney was ready. he was the closer last year after Farnsworth was traded and was brutal at times

Jones will have that job back when he comes off the DL...you dont send a 38 year old vet making $5 mil to a setup role
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Postby Blakas » Wed Apr 05, 2006 1:52 pm

The other thing that has to be kept in mind is that Jones is popular in Detroit. Why else bring him back for a second run?

As long as Jones performs, the job will be his.

If Rodney continues to play well, then Jones will just have less closer job security.
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