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Postby Ender » Thu Mar 30, 2006 4:53 pm

I just think Maddux will work his magic on Bush like he did with Davis.


Doug Davis

401 IP, 236 K, 5.3 K per 9 pre Brewers
482 IP, 409 K, 7.6 K per 9 with Brewers

Or how about Okha who was never a good K guy in his career and then look at last years splits.

53 IP, 17 K, 2.83 K per 9 pre Brewers
126.1 IP, 81 K, 5.78 K per 9 with Brewers.

Then look at spring training numbers

Bush 25 IP, 18 K, 6.48 K per 9
Ohka 29 IP, 19 K, 8..55 K per 9
Davis 15 IP, 12 K, 7.2 K per 9


Maddux just knows how to teach pitchers to pound that strike zone and pretty much every pitcher that joins the team spikes in K rate.
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Postby Yoda » Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:02 pm

Ender wrote:I just think Maddux will work his magic on Bush like he did with Davis.


Doug Davis

401 IP, 236 K, 5.3 K per 9 pre Brewers
482 IP, 409 K, 7.6 K per 9 with Brewers

Or how about Okha who was never a good K guy in his career and then look at last years splits.

53 IP, 17 K, 2.83 K per 9 pre Brewers
126.1 IP, 81 K, 5.78 K per 9 with Brewers.

Then look at spring training numbers

Bush 25 IP, 18 K, 6.48 K per 9
Ohka 29 IP, 19 K, 8..55 K per 9
Davis 15 IP, 12 K, 7.2 K per 9


Maddux just knows how to teach pitchers to pound that strike zone and pretty much every pitcher that joins the team spikes in K rate.


FWIW, Sheets also saw a jump in K rate from pre 03 to 04.
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Postby jblank » Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:04 pm

We'll see, but my expectations are tempered to some degree.
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Postby jblank » Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:05 pm

Yoda wrote:
Ender wrote:I just think Maddux will work his magic on Bush like he did with Davis.


Doug Davis

401 IP, 236 K, 5.3 K per 9 pre Brewers
482 IP, 409 K, 7.6 K per 9 with Brewers

Or how about Okha who was never a good K guy in his career and then look at last years splits.

53 IP, 17 K, 2.83 K per 9 pre Brewers
126.1 IP, 81 K, 5.78 K per 9 with Brewers.

Then look at spring training numbers

Bush 25 IP, 18 K, 6.48 K per 9
Ohka 29 IP, 19 K, 8..55 K per 9
Davis 15 IP, 12 K, 7.2 K per 9


Maddux just knows how to teach pitchers to pound that strike zone and pretty much every pitcher that joins the team spikes in K rate.


FWIW, Sheets also saw a jump in K rate from pre 03 to 04.


Yeah, but Ben Sheets has great stuff and a lot more talent than Bush. I don't think the two are really comparable, but I won't bury Bush just yet, its certainly possible he improves.
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Postby Yoda » Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:09 pm

jblank wrote:
Yoda wrote:
Ender wrote:I just think Maddux will work his magic on Bush like he did with Davis.


Doug Davis

401 IP, 236 K, 5.3 K per 9 pre Brewers
482 IP, 409 K, 7.6 K per 9 with Brewers

Or how about Okha who was never a good K guy in his career and then look at last years splits.

53 IP, 17 K, 2.83 K per 9 pre Brewers
126.1 IP, 81 K, 5.78 K per 9 with Brewers.

Then look at spring training numbers

Bush 25 IP, 18 K, 6.48 K per 9
Ohka 29 IP, 19 K, 8..55 K per 9
Davis 15 IP, 12 K, 7.2 K per 9


Maddux just knows how to teach pitchers to pound that strike zone and pretty much every pitcher that joins the team spikes in K rate.


FWIW, Sheets also saw a jump in K rate from pre 03 to 04.


Yeah, but Ben Sheets has great stuff and a lot more talent than Bush. I don't think the two are really comparable, but I won't bury Bush just yet, its certainly possible he improves.


No doubt Sheets is on a different planet when it comes down to it. I was just pointing out that Brewers pitchers in general have enjoyed immense success under Maddux. Capuano and Turnbow are also good examples.
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Postby jblank » Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:11 pm

Can't disagree with that. ;-D
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