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Postby reynolds80 » Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:01 am

JoBo might hold on longer than people think, because the Fish will not have many leads late in a ballgame, meaning plenty of rest between appearances for Borowski, and less times to show how mediocre he is.
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Postby cards05 » Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:11 am

They'll luck/play there way into 60 - 70 games. Most of those games will be won by less than 3 runs.
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Postby Half Massed » Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:25 am

A crappy team doesn't necessarily mean less save opps. They probably won't be blowing any teams out very often, which means more save opps. in the games they manage to win.
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Postby reynolds80 » Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:35 am

Half Massed wrote:A crappy team doesn't necessarily mean less save opps. They probably won't be blowing any teams out very often, which means more save opps. in the games they manage to win.


This is true up to a certain point, like with the 81-81 Nats last year. But look at a team like the Royals, who was so bad last year that they didn't give their closers many save opps at all.
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Postby AngelFan416 » Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:38 am

Well, the Royals were bad last year, but even McDougal was good enough for like 25+ saves. Dunno exactly how many he got.
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Postby The Jury » Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:41 am

AngelFan416 wrote:Well, the Royals were bad last year, but even McDougal was good enough for like 25+ saves. Dunno exactly how many he got.


The Pirates recorded 35 saves in 47 chances last year, and the Royals recorded 25 saves in 43 chances.

Also in the bottom third of save opps last year were Houston (Brad Lidge is still dominant), Oakland (Huston Street), Baltimore, Cubs, Boston, Detroit, Toronto, and Cincinnati.
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Postby TheYanks04 » Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:54 pm

Yes, but the Royals blow and so does MacDougal.
The Pirates were not as bad, but Mesa was.

I could see Borowski getting 30 saves with a 3.5 ERA and 1.3 WHIP. I could also see him getting 8, losiing his job in May with a 7.5 ERA and 1.6 WHIP.
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Postby Yoda » Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:09 pm

j24jags wrote:odds borowski holds the job all year are 20 to 1 IMO


What do you base this on? If he is healthy which is all indication so far, he is a decent enough pitcher. I've seen much worse pitchers who held on for an entire season.
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