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Postby quitesanemax » Thu Mar 23, 2006 2:23 pm

The obvious stats like Wins, Losses, and ERA can be deceiving.

I have been told that it is best to look at their WHIP and BAA. Usually, when I look at a pitcher's WHIP, I consider under 1.15 good, and absolutely won't touch a pitcher with a WHIP over 1.25.

As far as BAA goes, what is considered good? I usually look at under .250 as pretty good. What should be a cutoff BAA for not picking up pitchers?

Is there any other advice you can give, as far as what to look for in a pitcher?

Is there a different strategy as far as between SPs and RPs, besides the obvious ones...

Thanks.
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Postby teddyballgamemvp » Thu Mar 23, 2006 2:29 pm

If you're looking at BAA, anything under .270 is what you want in a starter for your fantasy team. OBA is more useful, since it measures walks and HBP, too.
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Postby BigLebowski » Thu Mar 23, 2006 2:30 pm

There are ton of stats to look at. If you are looking for quick reference points, then I would go with WHIP and K/9.
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Postby quitesanemax » Thu Mar 23, 2006 2:35 pm

k/9. I'm usually looking for a pitcher who gets as close to one k per inning as possible.

WHIP: Is my qualifications good for this stat. No more than 1.25, if possible, below 1.15?

OBA: I don't see that in Yahoo stats. Where can I find this?
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Postby mrider » Thu Mar 23, 2006 2:50 pm

There arn't many pitchers that get a strikeout an inning that is available but Shawn Chacon is a pretty good option if you look at his stats once he got traded from Colorado I expect him to get 13 wins a 3.65 ERA 1.20 WHIP and 150 strikeouts which is pretty good but not that good k/9 innings.
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Postby quitesanemax » Thu Mar 23, 2006 3:30 pm

mrider wrote:There arn't many pitchers that get a strikeout an inning that is available .


Yeah, in fact, there aren't many in the whole league. lol. I try to get as close as possible. I'm not so confident about Chacin... maybe I'm letting my Red Sox shades obstuct my view...


teddyballgamemvp wrote:If you're looking at BAA, anything under .270 is what you want in a starter for your fantasy team. OBA is more useful, since it measures walks and HBP, too.


I finally found OBA when looking at stats on MLB.com, but not for last year. So, what is considered a good OBA, and what is a sort of cutoff where you say 'That is too high'?

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Postby teddyballgamemvp » Thu Mar 23, 2006 3:44 pm

Historical stats are available at MLB.com. I'm not sure why you can't find OBA for pitchers from 2005.
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Postby garf112 » Thu Mar 23, 2006 6:34 pm

I look at a combination of things.

k/9, bb/9, and instead of just looking at whip, I also look at h/9, to make sure that it isn't a lot of unluckiness leading to a higher whip.

hope this helps.
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Postby mrider » Thu Mar 23, 2006 6:39 pm

garf112 wrote:I look at a combination of things.

k/9, bb/9, and instead of just looking at whip, I also look at h/9, to make sure that it isn't a lot of unluckiness leading to a higher whip.

hope this helps.


Thanks thats a good way to look at it I am going to use that strategy from now on.
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Postby Zito is God » Thu Mar 23, 2006 6:46 pm

After reading Moneyball I think I actually overstate how important K/9 and K/BB ratios are...if thats possible. I honestly think I have become obsessed with those two statistics in FFB.
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