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Postby DoomDaddy » Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:06 am

5X5,H2H-I've never been in a league w holds...What is the strategy, and give me a short list of holds pitchers.Thanks.
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Postby Gags Sports » Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:28 am

#1 Scot Shields
#2 Scott Linebrink

There are many others, but those two are head a full step ahead of the rest IMO.

Others:

Rincon
Duscherer (sp?)
Danys Baez (might not have the best ratios, but is definitely next in line to close in case Gagne goes down)
Farnsworth

Do a search where "Holds" is in the subject title of threads in this forum and you will get lots of information. It will also be quicker than waiitng for responses to this post.

Good luck!
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Re: Who to target for holds?

Postby GotowarMissAgnes » Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:59 am

DoomDaddy wrote:5X5,H2H-I've never been in a league w holds...What is the strategy, and give me a short list of holds pitchers.Thanks.


Strategy:
1. Try to pick one or two strong holders (guys who wil lbe in setup roles, with good WHIP and K rates) in the draft somewhere between round 17 and the end of the draft.

2. Be active on the WW to identify guys changing roles to pick up additional holds.
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Postby joeblow53 » Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:03 pm

If you can start 8 pitchers and hold is a categories how do you breakdown your pitching? 4 SP, 2 RP, 2 MR (holds)?
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Re: Who to target for holds?

Postby Gags Sports » Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:03 pm

DoomDaddy wrote:5X5,H2H-I've never been in a league w holds...What is the strategy, and give me a short list of holds pitchers.Thanks.


Might be a dumb question, but it's also dumb to assume...

What category got dropped in place of holds? Was it WHIP??

Are the five hitting cats normal?
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Postby Gags Sports » Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:04 pm

joeblow53 wrote:If you can start 8 pitchers and hold is a categories how do you breakdown your pitching? 4 SP, 2 RP, 2 MR (holds)?


Well, how many bench spots are you alloted and what exactly are the position requirements for pitching??

In other words, what are the 8 positions? Are they all P? Are there 4 SP and 4 P???

It matters.
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Postby joeblow53 » Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:10 pm

All the positions are P. The categories are W, SV, K, Holds, ERA, WHIP
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Postby Gags Sports » Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:22 pm

joeblow53 wrote:All the positions are P. The categories are W, SV, K, Holds, ERA, WHIP


Well, we've got two different discussions going on because the original poster is doomdaddy and I was trying to ask him about the categories.

Anyway, your league is 6x6 so it's different. I'm going to assume it is H2H. With 8 positions that are all P, my next question would be, "How many bench spots are you allowed, and how many of those bench spots will you be applying to your pitching side?"
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Postby joeblow53 » Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:25 pm

right now I have 2 bench spots but I could add 2 more. yes it's h2h.
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Postby Gags Sports » Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:39 pm

joeblow53 wrote:right now I have 2 bench spots but I could add 2 more. yes it's h2h.


Well, we're completely hijacking this thread right now, but since the original poster isn't responding, I guess I'll help you out.

You'll get a lot of different strategies from cafe members when it comes to H2H, so what I'm about to say isn't necessarily the absolute way to go.

In H2H I like to either put a strong emphasis on my starters, or a strong emphasis on my relievers. But not both. I'm usually never balanced on the pitching side like I would be in roto.

Another factor in H2H would be if there are any innings limitations that your league has. Do you have any?

With 8 P slots, I would consider 2 hold guys sufficient, but no more. I doubt anyone in your league will have more than 2. That leaves 6 starting P slots remaining, plus 2 bench slots.

If it's a 12 team league, I would like to have 2-3 closers. If it's a 10 team league, I would want 3-4 closers. You really want to be targeting relievers with good ratios. If you think those closer counts are too high or if you find that closers are going too early, then put more emphasis on holds. Either way, don't take a closer earlier than you normally would because some guy started an early run on them. Make sure you get your closers at good value. If you're not getting good value, then just wait and grab a bat. You can always load up on holds later on and just punt saves.

In a H2H league, holds are just as important as saves as each are their own category. Closers go much earlier in the draft than middler relievers like Sheilds and Linebrink. Be aware of this.
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