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Postby NY Yankees Fan 2004 » Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:12 am

I don't understand. I know the guy had a horrible 2nd half and even hurt me team down the stretch last year, but the guy is still 32. That aint as old as people are making it out to be. Yes, he is not young anymore, but he is not Old. Look what he did during the first half last year. Who can forget the time where he had 6HR in a week and everyone was saying that Abreu was a fantasy MVP, now all of the sudden he sucks.

He has hit atleast 20HR for the past 7 years. He plays in a bandbox. he did win the HR derby setting records, so the guy obviously hasnt lost his power. And he steals about 30 bases a year.

+ he is a career .303 hitter.

Every post I see here talks about Abreu declining, I personally don't see it.
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Postby Another Blown Save » Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:14 am

I don't think people are down on Abreu
Every draft I've been/seen, he is gone by the 2nd round at the latest.
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Postby WittyC » Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:47 am

How high do you think he should go, just out of curiosity?
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Postby pope » Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:55 am

Why is Abreu rated as he is?
He is getting old and that makes people nervous. Also, he is not a very sexy pick because he has been around forever. I think owners find themselves picking between him and a player with similar numbers, a la Bay or Wright. In this scenario, managers see higher upside in the younger players. Abreu has reached his ceiling, these youngsters have not.
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Postby George_Foreman » Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:58 am

Brandon Funston still likes him. :-D
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Postby Sp_Da_Man » Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:15 am

Everything I've seen on him has him at the end of the 1st round. He's still a solid player but that second half decline really scares alot of owners (me included).
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Postby d18Mike » Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:32 am

Interesting take on Abreu from MLB's director of stats -- he is high on Abreu generally but notes that 32 is the age when many players start real dips in production. It's the beginning of the downside of a career, typically. Not to say that is the case with Abreu. He will likely still be a solid player across the board. But you have to wonder if he still has 30-30 written all over him.

Hey, I'll take 25-25!
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Postby Ender » Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:05 am

He never had 30-30 written all over him, 30 is the upper limit of his power more or less. What worries me more is that his SB will slip since he's 32 and after 31 you tend to regress in speed pretty quickly.

As for his stock falling, I have him pencilled in for almost the same stats as I had him at last year, the reason he has dropped for me is there is just a lot more 1st round talent out there now. Teix has proven he should be 1st round, ortiz obviously should. Wright and Bay make a strong case for being there, Crawford solidified his late 1st round status with last years numbers. Last year there were like 7 legit 1st round picks and a bunch of iffy 1st rounders, this year there are about 15 legit 1st round picks.
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Postby DevilDriver » Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:58 am

Bay will go 30/30/.300, Abreu will go 20/25/.300
Bay entering prime, Abreu leaving prime
Bay over Abreu ;-D Abreu is declining too...
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Postby diesel99xx » Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:16 am

George_Foreman wrote:Brandon Funston still likes him. :-D



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