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Postby Surfs up » Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:44 pm

If both end up starting in the minors and you only had one pick which one would it be? Both are closers in the making but Hansen seems to be the closest to getting the job.
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Postby hybrid » Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:02 pm

I would choose Hansen, as I'm not sold of Zumaya's control or lack there of.
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Postby Cleveland Steamers » Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:51 am

I would go Zumaya. I dont know how a pitcher can sport the numbers Zumaya has with this so called "lack of control." The guy can hit triple digits and may be a frontline starter. If he isnt a starter, he definitely can be a top tier closer. I just like that he has proven himself on every level outside of the actual Tigers/
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Postby hybrid » Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:59 am

Cleveland Steamers wrote:I would go Zumaya. I dont know how a pitcher can sport the numbers Zumaya has with this so called "lack of control." The guy can hit triple digits and may be a frontline starter. If he isnt a starter, he definitely can be a top tier closer. I just like that he has proven himself on every level outside of the actual Tigers/


If you have seen his numbers, then I'm not sure how you can miss his walk ratio. In the last 2 years he has basically averaged 4.5 BB's for every 9 innings pitched, that is pretty bad control. He can do it in the minors with the stuff he has, but he won't get away with it long term in the majors.
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Postby Cleveland Steamers » Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:02 am

I agree his walk ratio is rather high. He really needs to figure out that if he "tones" his fastball down to 94-96, his control would improve dramatically. He actually has great movement for throwing so hard an may acutally benefit from taking it easy on most fastballs.
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Postby sj2k » Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:49 pm

Assuming both will be succesfull closers, I like hansen because A. he is closer to the job and B. he is on a better team
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Postby Members Only Jackets » Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:41 pm

Hansen is the safe bet if you want a closer...but if you want to roll the dice, I think (from all the research I've done) Zumaya can be a star in the league...either at closer but hopefully as a SP.
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:58 pm

Members Only Jackets wrote:Hansen is the safe bet if you want a closer...but if you want to roll the dice, I think (from all the research I've done) Zumaya can be a star in the league...either at closer but hopefully as a SP.
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It isn't a sure thing that Zumaya will be a RP. He could still be a SP. I think he has a higher upside than Hansen but Hansen is the safer pick.
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Postby Purple Haze » Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:12 pm

Joel Zumaya ;-D ;-D ;-D
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Postby Surfs up » Fri Mar 10, 2006 8:50 pm

Thanks for the replies. But Hansen being on a better team doesn't mean he would get more saves if he was the closer. A couple of years ago Danny Kolb and the Brewers had the most save chances in baseball and they were one of the worse team.And this year year I'm not so sure the Red Sox are better then the Tigers. A slight edge in pitching on paper but hitting I think the Tigers match up.And the Tigers do play in a pitchers park.
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