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Postby Yoda » Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:55 pm

Been reading about it and it's pretty interesting stuff. Apparently Will Carroll is able to teach people how to throw it. There is more info here:

http://www.rotoauthority.com/gyroball/
http://www.robneyer.com/book_04_gyroball.html
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Postby WittyC » Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:13 pm

That's some crazy stuff. I can't say I'm a big fan of calling it the "gyroball," though. I mean, honestly... it sounds like something out of a cheezy, futuristic baseball movie where there are trampolines in the outfield and pits filled with fire in the basepaths. :*)

Regardless, I hope Matsuzka gets posted. It would be interesting to see if big-leaguers could his that junk.
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Postby DK » Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:16 pm

The videos of the gyroball are ridiculous. It'd definitely be a really tough pitch for any level to hit if it's thrown right.

I wish Matsuzka's manager would let him defect and play in a real league.
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Postby KoopaTroopa211 » Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:18 pm

Sounds amazing. Does anyone have a link to a video or diagram of this thing being thrown?
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Postby DK » Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:19 pm

KoopaTroopa211 wrote:Sounds amazing. Does anyone have a link to a video or diagram of this thing being thrown?


Look up "gyroball" on Google videos. You'll find at least three vids. None are great quality IIRC but you see the break.
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Postby Amazinz » Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:28 pm

There is a vid link in the RotoAuthority article.
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Postby Yoda » Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:57 pm

This is a high school kid throwing the gyroball (from Rotoauthority). The break is so clear even in this crude video.

http://static.baseballtoaster.com/blogs ... /gyro1.mov

FYI Matsazuka is pitching for Japan in the WBC I believe. Might be worth checking it out.
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Postby RugbyD » Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:02 pm

so this is basically the same motion as a 12/6 curveball until the last second where you straighten the wrist out slightly more than a 90-degree turn. interesting, but i can't imagine it would be that hard to learn if you can throw a 12/6 or 1/7 curveball. i wish i was still in HS so i could play around with it.
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Postby bronxxbomber » Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:03 pm

RugbyD wrote:so this is basically the same motion as a 12/6 curveball until the last second where you straighten the wrist out slightly more than a 90-degree turn. interesting, but i can't imagine it would be that hard to learn if you can throw a 12/6 or 1/7 curveball. i wish i was still in HS so i could play around with it.
Give them a little credit because it's really hard to pitch like that otherwise you'd have a more SP being successful.
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Postby thedude » Sat Mar 11, 2006 1:12 am

It is i a shame Matsuzaka's arm will be shredded by his manager long before he is ever posted and allowed to come to this country...

I wonder if Bobby Valentine still uses pitch counts? The Japanese league might wanna pay attention to how his pitchers don't have chronic arm problems.
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