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Postby LiveForever » Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:04 am

Pierre is a 3 catagory player just like Adam Dunn excpet Pierre is better at what he does. Pierre will help your team in Runs, Average, and Stolenbases and hurt you in Homeruns and RBIs. Dunn will help you in Homeruns, RBIs, and runs but will hurt you in average and stolenbases. Adam Dunn goes around the 4th to 5th round so why shouldnt pierre?
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Postby WittyC » Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:06 am

I'll say this... I'd rather have Willy Taveras 7 rounds later, but I don't think JP's overrated. He should have significant value over Pods, but is barely being drafted ahead of him. Hell, I think he'll be more valuable than Ichiro this year, and that guy's going in the first two rounds!
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Postby NZF » Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:44 am

Madison wrote:
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Madison wrote:There's a player on the waiver wire who will hit .300 with 100 runs and 50 steals? 8-o

Please tell me who I'm overlooking. I've got a team that is in need of extra steals. :-)


Probably not 50 SB's but maybe 40 along with 8-10 HR's, 100 runs and close to a .300 avg. All on the WW :-)


I was typing the above post as this one came in. My guess is either Gathright, or Nook Logan, with Gathright as the #1 guess. :-?


Neither Gathright or Logan are guaranteed playing time so that counts them out.

And by waiver wire I do mean that in the majority of 12 team mixed leagues they're undrafted. Also guaranteed playing time, maybe even 600 AB's for the year.
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Postby bigh0rt » Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:46 am

New Zealand Fan wrote:
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Madison wrote:There's a player on the waiver wire who will hit .300 with 100 runs and 50 steals? 8-o

Please tell me who I'm overlooking. I've got a team that is in need of extra steals. :-)


Probably not 50 SB's but maybe 40 along with 8-10 HR's, 100 runs and close to a .300 avg. All on the WW :-)


I was typing the above post as this one came in. My guess is either Gathright, or Nook Logan, with Gathright as the #1 guess. :-?


Neither Gathright or Logan are guaranteed playing time so that would be too big a risk.

And by waiver wire I do mean that in the majority of 12 team mixed leagues they're undrafted.


So if not those 2, who were you referring to who will match Pierre's statistics, or come close?? Or were you saying that by combining a few WW pickups and playing accordingly, you could supplement Pierre's stats? And if so, that's a waste of roster space (but I don't think that's what you were saying; but just in case).
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Postby NZF » Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:51 am

You're getting warmer and why is it a waste of roster space? Maybe with very limited bench spots it is but who would play in a league like that?
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Postby Dhark » Thu Mar 09, 2006 4:11 am

JP will definately improve over last year w/ the tall grass at Wrigley, but I would grab all 4 category guys before him. Which would put him in the middle of draft. Really it's mostly a matter of wether you really are hurting for SB. I would rather pick up infield players that can steal, and play power players in the OF. You dont find many power hitters @ SS or 2nd, why not get a guy like J Reyes or Freel. Not that these are in the same category...but just for instance off top of head. If all good infielders are taken then JP is definately a good option because you will get him much later than Ichiro and he will put up comparable #'s for the $.
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Postby wrveres » Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:18 am

New Zealand Fan wrote:
Madison wrote:
New Zealand Fan wrote:
Madison wrote:There's a player on the waiver wire who will hit .300 with 100 runs and 50 steals? 8-o

Please tell me who I'm overlooking. I've got a team that is in need of extra steals. :-)


Probably not 50 SB's but maybe 40 along with 8-10 HR's, 100 runs and close to a .300 avg. All on the WW :-)


I was typing the above post as this one came in. My guess is either Gathright, or Nook Logan, with Gathright as the #1 guess. :-?


Neither Gathright or Logan are guaranteed playing time so that counts them out.

And by waiver wire I do mean that in the majority of 12 team mixed leagues they're undrafted. Also guaranteed playing time, maybe even 600 AB's for the year.


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Postby ukrneal » Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:54 am

For a player like Pierre, pods, etc. whose value relies pretty heavily on steals, I'm always leary of taking too early. I remember a couple years ago when his steals weren't there and his value plummeted. With a guy like Crawford, who will get you at least 15 Homers, the risk is somewhat offset (at least he won't be totally worthless). SO I agree that there is some nicer value to be had in later rounds, or just be sure to have a solid base before you take some of these guys.
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Postby swyck » Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:58 am

LiveForever wrote:Pierre is a 3 catagory player just like Adam Dunn excpet Pierre is better at what he does. Pierre will help your team in Runs, Average, and Stolenbases and hurt you in Homeruns and RBIs. Dunn will help you in Homeruns, RBIs, and runs but will hurt you in average and stolenbases. Adam Dunn goes around the 4th to 5th round so why shouldnt pierre?

People always ignore 3 cat guys if one of those cats isnt HRs. And avg seems to be the forgotten cat unless someone is under .270. :-[
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Postby AcidRock23 » Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:09 am

swyck wrote:
LiveForever wrote:Pierre is a 3 catagory player just like Adam Dunn excpet Pierre is better at what he does. Pierre will help your team in Runs, Average, and Stolenbases and hurt you in Homeruns and RBIs. Dunn will help you in Homeruns, RBIs, and runs but will hurt you in average and stolenbases. Adam Dunn goes around the 4th to 5th round so why shouldnt pierre?

People always ignore 3 cat guys if one of those cats isnt HRs. And avg seems to be the forgotten cat unless someone is under .270. :-[


I noticed that avg had dropped off across both leagues and decided to use .270 as my avg 'threshold' instead of .300 b/c of it.

I think that I have possibly figured out who the waiverwonder is as he kind of sticks out in several leagues but I'm not sure...can we have some hints? :-)
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