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Postby pmacxx2 » Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:36 pm

Yoda wrote:Steroids does not help you make contact or hit the ball further. There is no scientific proof.


Actually, it's been medically proven that steroids can improve eye vision. Anyone who's ever played the game would undoubtedly say that eye vision DOES help you make contact or hit the ball further.
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Postby teddyballgamemvp » Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:36 pm

PlayingWithFire wrote:You want to go into underage drinking? That's illegal too


Bonds apologists make me laugh. It's too bad he wasn't found making child porn. The defense of him here would be even funnier.
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Postby knapplc » Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:37 pm

PlayingWithFire wrote:You want to go into underage drinking? That's illegal too


What does that have to do with this conversation?
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Postby CubsFan7724 » Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:37 pm

Yoda wrote:Steroids does not help you make contact or hit the ball further. There is no scientific proof.

Basic physics? Steroids aid in building muscle mass. More muscle with the same weight of bat means you can swing at a great acceleration. AKA, more force. The ball weighs the same, but you put more force into it. More force on a constant mass=faster acceleration, a faster acceleration means a faster velocity, and a faster velocity equals further distance traveled.

As for hand-eye coordination, in the book, they have from various seized federal records that Bonds noted an improvement in his eyesight after taking HGH.
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Postby Mookie4ever » Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:37 pm

DK wrote:
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DK wrote:I was under the impression that GJT is sealed until the judge publicly allows it to be seen (if at all). Can you verify this?


Here's a recent case I found on the subject: Link

According to that, testimony that does not reveal witness or jury names can be released under the Freedom of Information Act.

Any lawyers on here?


Mook's a lawyer but I don't know his specialization.

Mook?


I'm Canadian and have no idea about your crazy laws down there.

Justice is supposed to be public but courts have been known to seal court files in certain circumstances. So I just do not know.
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Postby CubsFan7724 » Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:39 pm

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The preponderance of evidence is by far the most detailed and damning condemnation that Bonds, formerly a sleek five-tool player, built himself into a hulking, record-setting home run hitter at an advanced baseball age with a cornucopia of elaborate, illegally-administered chemicals.


Everyone wanted evidence, looks like there is a ton of it in the book.

When faced with overwhelming evidence that you really can't counter, do the next best thing: DISCREDIT THE SOURCES! SLING MUD! If it's good enough for politics, its damn fine for sports.
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Postby Xtreemes » Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:39 pm

knapplc i didn't write that, read my post again I was quoting playing with fire.
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Postby RugbyD » Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:40 pm

CubsFan7724 wrote:
Yoda wrote:Steroids does not help you make contact or hit the ball further. There is no scientific proof.

Basic physics? Steroids aid in building muscle mass. More muscle with the same weight of bat means you can swing at a great acceleration. AKA, more force. The ball weighs the same, but you put more force into it. More force on a constant mass=faster acceleration, a faster acceleration means a faster velocity, and a faster velocity equals further distance traveled.

As for hand-eye coordination, in the book, they have from various seized federal records that Bonds noted an improvement in his eyesight after taking HGH.

So this is why Juan Pierre doesn't hit lots of homers?!?!?!?! aw gosh its all so clear now! i don't know what i was thinking! ;-7 ;-)
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Postby CubsFan7724 » Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:42 pm

RugbyD wrote:
CubsFan7724 wrote:
Yoda wrote:Steroids does not help you make contact or hit the ball further. There is no scientific proof.

Basic physics? Steroids aid in building muscle mass. More muscle with the same weight of bat means you can swing at a great acceleration. AKA, more force. The ball weighs the same, but you put more force into it. More force on a constant mass=faster acceleration, a faster acceleration means a faster velocity, and a faster velocity equals further distance traveled.

As for hand-eye coordination, in the book, they have from various seized federal records that Bonds noted an improvement in his eyesight after taking HGH.

So this is why Juan Pierre doesn't hit lots of homers?!?!?!?! aw gosh its all so clear now! i don't know what i was thinking! ;-7 ;-)

Obviously there are other factors, but thats far more complicated and didn't feel it was necessary. Obviously, you have to have the right pitchs to hit and also have to change your swing to hit home runs and such.
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Postby knapplc » Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:44 pm

Xtreemes wrote:knapplc i didn't write that, read my post again I was quoting playing with fire.

Sorry - I accidentally quoted your reply, then messed up my editing. Oops! :-B
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