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In favor of Bonds breaking Aaron's record?

Poll ended at Fri Mar 17, 2006 4:36 pm

Can't Wait, maybe he'll get to 800?!
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26%
Hope he never touches Aaron's record, hows that knee holding up btw?
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74%
 
Total votes : 198

Postby modestninja » Sat Mar 11, 2006 10:58 pm

nuggets wrote:
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nuggets wrote:
CUBSWIN wrote:I do not want Bonds to pass Ruth or Aaron. It would be an insult to both these players and the game of baseball to have one of the most cherished records in sports broken by a player who used chemicals to enhance his performance. [/u]


Aaron used Amphetamines, Ruth a corked bat and illegal alcohol.Next please.


I'm sure being drunk and hung over for games contributed to Ruth's hitting ability. You sure showed them with that one! I know you were saying he used illegal substances but the main difference is that BB are performance enhancing, whereas Ruths probably impacted his performance negatively. Kinda like that Canadian who one the inagural snowboard olympic downhill and tested positive for weed... Not really going to help you perform to the best of your abilities (except in an eating contest).


Uhh then what's with the first two sentances? Oh typical Bonds hater BS, like 90+% of it.

I board far better when I'm baked. Many fight better after a few drinks. I don't care if Ruth was drunk, but if an alkie needs booze when under stress, I'm sure Ruth was better of with a beer or two in him before an AB.


The only point I'm making is that Ruth used an illegal substance and illegal bats so unless you're going on a witch hunt for him too, you are an evil sort of hypocrite. Evil because you are backpacking onto the destruction of someone’s life. Do you do this to everyone you don't like? Especially one who hasn't killed anyone or committed some crime against society? I think not.


So much for classy posts without personal attacks in them...
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Postby modestninja » Sat Mar 11, 2006 11:04 pm

nuggets wrote:
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nuggets wrote:
CUBSWIN wrote:I do not want Bonds to pass Ruth or Aaron. It would be an insult to both these players and the game of baseball to have one of the most cherished records in sports broken by a player who used chemicals to enhance his performance. [/u]


Aaron used Amphetamines, Ruth a corked bat and illegal alcohol.Next please.


I'm sure being drunk and hung over for games contributed to Ruth's hitting ability. You sure showed them with that one! I know you were saying he used illegal substances but the main difference is that BB are performance enhancing, whereas Ruths probably impacted his performance negatively. Kinda like that Canadian who one the inagural snowboard olympic downhill and tested positive for weed... Not really going to help you perform to the best of your abilities (except in an eating contest).


Uhh then what's with the first two sentances? Oh typical Bonds hater BS, like 90+% of it.

I board far better when I'm baked. Many fight better after a few drinks. I don't care if Ruth was drunk, but if an alkie needs booze when under stress, I'm sure Ruth was better of with a beer or two in him before an AB.


The only point I'm making is that Ruth used an illegal substance and illegal bats so unless you're going on a witch hunt for him too, you are an evil sort of hypocrite.


Last I checked it would be pretty hard to go after Ruth for those things. I believe unlike Bonds, he been dead for quite some time so it might be pretty hard to check his bats for funny stuff. Also, having been around plenty of alcoholics there is no way drinking regularily (aka: being an alcoholic) would make you play better hitter, especially a fine motor skill sport like baseball. It's possible that a player might do a little better with one or two in him (to loosen him up), but with alcoholics there is never just one or two drinks. Furthermore the constant abuse of alcohol is very hard on the body which definetely would negatively impact someone's performance over the long run.
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Postby kentx12 » Sat Mar 11, 2006 11:05 pm

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Chicago RedSox wrote:I hope they find a way to ban him from ever playing again. He can go on book signing tours with Pete Rose.
It'll work as a deterrant from the upcoming kids from getting into the roids


Yes, we should push them toward Meth, Speed and Alcohol, shouldn't we?



If we tell our kids that it is ok to do what Barry has done then that is exactly what we are doing. IMO 1 "illegal" drug is as bad as the other baring alcahol which isnt illegal. What difference does it make what drug you are using if it is against the law?
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Postby modestninja » Sat Mar 11, 2006 11:11 pm

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Chicago RedSox wrote:I hope they find a way to ban him from ever playing again. He can go on book signing tours with Pete Rose.
It'll work as a deterrant from the upcoming kids from getting into the roids


Yes, we should push them toward Meth, Speed and Alcohol, shouldn't we?


Why does pushing kids away from steroids, push them into meth, speed and alcohol? That's what I don't get about this whole everyone else cheated so it alright if Bonds did argument. Cheating is wrong no matter who does it. Period. End of story. I'm no more for Ruth using corked bats and Aaron using greenies (as has been alleged -- although no one has shown anything at all saying that this might have any basis in fact) than Bonds juicing... I feel like my mom, but just because so and so cheated doesn't make it alright for others to cheat.
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Postby modestninja » Sat Mar 11, 2006 11:13 pm

nuggets wrote:
Chicago RedSox wrote:I hope they find a way to ban him from ever playing again. He can go on book signing tours with Pete Rose.
It'll work as a deterrant from the upcoming kids from getting into the roids


Yes, we should push them toward Meth, Speed and Alcohol, shouldn't we?


The other thing, I'd guess most of the younger generation doesn't know much more than Base Ruth, or Hank Aaron's name so they wouldn't be pushed towards those substances and alcohol because of them... However, since kids see Bonds on TV all the time hitting homers and then see the stories of 'roid use, they might be tempted to take the same shortcuts...
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Postby Tavish » Sat Mar 11, 2006 11:19 pm

modestninja wrote:Last I checked it would be pretty hard to go after Ruth for those things. I believe unlike Bonds, he been dead for quite some time so it might be pretty hard to check his bats for funny stuff.


I don't think anyone is advocating digging Ruth's grave up and putting him on trial. The only real reason people mention Aaron, Ruth, Mays, Gaylord Perry, Phil Neikro, Norm Cash, Whitey Ford, Albert Belle, Amos Otis, John McGraw, The 51 Giants, the Bossards, Rick Honeycutt, Wilton Guerrero, and on and on is because people keep saying that somehow Bonds is destroying the integrity of baseball. Cheating (or trying to) is as much a part of baseball's history as it is a part of taxes.

Also there isn't much need to try and check Ruth's bats for funny stuff. He never denied using the Crawford bat and, like several of the others who were using it, griped publically about it being banned from use.
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