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Postby mak1277 » Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:12 pm

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Yoda wrote:Hey he agreed to it. It's like PIT offering Jack Wilson a lucrative contract even though he is already under contract for this year and he clearly doesn't deserve it.

If Miguel is happy and he produces as he says in the article, he will get more than enough money in his lifetime.


Not if he gets injured...this was a very bad move on Miggy's part. :-/


The issue is that he's not in his arbitration years yet. So if he doesn't agree to $470k, the team can pay him whatever they want, down to the minimum for a player with his years of service (certainly less than $470). The players have no leverage until they hit arbitration.

The same thing is happening w/ Duke in Pittsburgh. He is going to refuse to sign his deal for $380k (or whatever it is), but it's only symbolic, because he'll be forced to play for whatever the Pirates decide.
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:28 pm

mak1277 wrote:The issue is that he's not in his arbitration years yet. So if he doesn't agree to $470k, the team can pay him whatever they want, down to the minimum for a player with his years of service (certainly less than $470). The players have no leverage until they hit arbitration.

The same thing is happening w/ Duke in Pittsburgh. He is going to refuse to sign his deal for $380k (or whatever it is), but it's only symbolic, because he'll be forced to play for whatever the Pirates decide.

Exactly. So he sucks it up and takes their crappy offer and leaves as fast as free agency allows. I think Florida has next to no chance to sign him long term after this.
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Postby Padsin05 » Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:54 pm

why is this such a big deal, the fact that he is making more then they have to pay him is a nice bonus. He's not even arbitration eligible.
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Postby Subversive » Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:03 pm

I don't see a problem with this. The Marlins are operating under the terms of the collective bargaining agreement. For people to suggest that they should give Cabrera MORE money than they need to when he's not even at arbitration yet is simply ridiculous. You don't see players offering to sign for half of their value when they get to free agency, do you? So why should Florida pay him double (or more) than they have to at this point?
Bah, humbug.
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Postby Amazinz » Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:05 pm

It's not a big deal. The Mets just gave a similar contract to David Wright. It's just the way it is under the current system. Also, refusing to play isn't really an option since you would just be extending the arbitration clock.
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Postby raiders_umpire » Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:56 pm

$470,000 is still alot of money guys. It is by no means what he will make in the future when his contract is in the 15 million + range, but it is all he can get right now. He has no control over what he can get paid for a few more years, but once he does watch out.
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Postby Krunk City King$ » Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:01 pm

when is his contract really up?
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Postby Yoda » Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:01 pm

nuggets wrote:If they have no intention of resigning him it's swallowable but, why insult one of the greatest future players in the game? Why not build around him? Is MCab not they type of player to build around and to keep happy?

Say resinging is an option, would a player who was underpaid this year be more or less likely to sign a deal at a later date for more or less money?

Both parties seem to be making mistakes.


They don't have to. The Fins management is working under a strict budget. They are not big spenders like PIT who can just throw millions at marginal players. :-D
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