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Are these pujols trades vetoable?

Postby tal1286 » Mon Feb 27, 2006 2:04 pm

So this owner has been offering some crappy offers recently.

He offered me Craig Monroe/Brady Clark for Crawford, which I rejected out of hand.

Anyway, he offered this trade:
His Pujols and Carlos Guillen
for
Aubrey Huff and Jose Reyes

Which I voted against and it got vetoed.

THEN he offered this one:

Pujols, Guillen, Luis Gonzalez (ARI), Gustavo Chacin
for
Huff, Reyes, and Chris Ray

That one got vetoed before I even saw it. I think you could probably get all 3 of those players for pujols alone if you had 2 sucky players to drop and you really wanted to trade him even though I would never do that trade.

Are those vetoable? He posted a message that said that he has his reasons.
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Leyland said, "We thought we were getting a hell of a player, but Neifi simply did not perform well."

really?
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Mon Feb 27, 2006 2:14 pm

Unless he is actually Albert Pujols posting from the hospital, I'd say his reasons suck. :-D
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Postby TheYanks04 » Mon Feb 27, 2006 2:16 pm

I would have vetoed and not thought twice about it. I am not one for this caveat emptor, as long as some BS spin can be made to justify it, it should be allowed. A first rounder was being dealt and the closest thing to a first rounder being sent back was Reyes, a 3rd or 4th rounder.
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Postby The Jury » Mon Feb 27, 2006 2:17 pm

Sorry your usage of "you," "he," and "I" has me all confused :-/
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Postby Fenway05 » Mon Feb 27, 2006 2:23 pm

Pogotheostrich wrote:Unless he is actually Albert Pujols posting from the hospital, I'd say his reasons suck. :-D


I agree, I hate guy like this. They just waste your time and fill up your e-mail with this crap!
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Postby Art Vandelay » Mon Feb 27, 2006 2:32 pm

Not vetoable. Maybe he thinks Huff is going to put up similar numbers to 2003 (.311, 34 hr, 107 rbi). You have to let people manage their teams how they see fit and follow their hunches. Someone may have vastly different projections for this season than you have, and they should be allowed to act on them.
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Postby RugbyD » Mon Feb 27, 2006 2:35 pm

I would demand explanation since the trades look highly suspect. If he has his reasons, he should be very able to share them. If he's starving for SBs, i can't veto the trade.
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Postby TheYanks04 » Mon Feb 27, 2006 2:56 pm

RugbyD wrote:I would demand explanation since the trades look highly suspect. If he has his reasons, we should be very able to share them. If he's starving for SBs, i can't veto the trade.



Oh sure you can. This is not August and he is not fighting for a title.
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Postby Matthias » Mon Feb 27, 2006 3:10 pm

TheYanks04 wrote:I would have vetoed and not thought twice about it. I am not one for this caveat emptor, as long as some BS spin can be made to justify it, it should be allowed. A first rounder was being dealt and the closest thing to a first rounder being sent back was Reyes, a 3rd or 4th rounder.


bingo. i am a bit more willing to veto things, but don't think this is really a defensible trade. if people want, we can have another ad nauseum argument on the morality of vetoing absent a concurrent email to the league, "psstttt... we're doing this trade because we agreed that player A has no chance in this league and player B agreed to buy pizza for the rest of the week as long as player A does the deal" but any defense of the trade on its merits or balanced current market value is going to be really, really, really reaching.

regardless of a person's individual speculations/fantasies on how a particular player may perform, there is still relatively established market values that dictate that they could get the player they insanely covet and more, as well.

tell the player who is trying to fire-sale pujols to walk out onto a frozen lake, bore himself a hole, and then jump in. maybe that will shock him into some sense.
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Postby acsguitar » Mon Feb 27, 2006 3:34 pm

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