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Postby J35J » Wed Feb 22, 2006 5:25 pm

BigLebowski wrote:
Art Vandelay wrote:If you want those stats he had last year, just pick up Emil Brown off the free agent list and don't waste a high pick on him. ;-D


Uggh, I hope you don't expect anything near what Brown did last year. I'm hoping he doesn't see more than 450ABs. The guy is terrible in the field and shouldn't come close to putting up the offensive #'s he did last year.

With all that being said I hope he is a stud next year. :-o

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Postby RyanK » Wed Feb 22, 2006 5:35 pm

reynolds80 wrote:I like that he hit 42 doubles last year with Cleveland.

I'm thinking .309, 21HR, 12SB, 112R, 82RBI


i think your pushing it a little too much thats better than damon last year, which crisp is not at yet hitting wise, in 2-3 more year yes that is a possibility.

damons stats last year:
.316 10hr 18sb 117r 75rbi
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Postby kemper5 » Wed Feb 22, 2006 5:36 pm

The fact is Coco is equal to and will be better than Damon this year and for years to come. He's 26 and entering his prime. Do not be surpriseed if he post a 20HR, 80 RBI, 115 Run, 20 SB type season. He's going to be a very very good fantasy player for years to come. Think of what Damon did for the Red Sox in 04 (20 HR, 94 RBI, 123 Runs, 19 SB's) and thats what the Red Sox have to look forward to possibly this year and years to come if they keep him
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Postby reynolds80 » Wed Feb 22, 2006 5:45 pm

reynolds80 wrote:I like that he hit 42 doubles last year with Cleveland.

I'm thinking .309, 21HR, 12SB, 112R, 82RBI


I know that line may look a little high to some people, but consider that Jacobs Field's HR factor is 73 while Fenway's is 99, and the Jake's Runs factor is 92 while Fenway's is 115 - and Crisp's home/road splits are pretty drastic:

Home .275-4 in 291 ABs
Away .323-12 in 303 ABs

I also think Manny and Ortiz will drive him in extremely often. Damon scored 117 runs with those two hitting 3-4, and Coco will come very close to that if not equal it.
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Postby RyanK » Wed Feb 22, 2006 5:48 pm

reynolds80 wrote:
reynolds80 wrote:I like that he hit 42 doubles last year with Cleveland.

I'm thinking .309, 21HR, 12SB, 112R, 82RBI


I know that line may look a little high to some people, but consider that Jacobs Field's HR factor is 73 while Fenway's is 99, and the Jake's Runs factor is 92 while Fenway's is 115 - and Crisp's home/road splits are pretty drastic:

Home .275-4 in 291 ABs
Away .323-12 in 303 ABs

I also think Manny and Ortiz will drive him in extremely often. Damon scored 117 runs with those two hitting 3-4, and Coco will come very close to that if not equal it.


The runs will be there but i really dont think he will drive in over 70 people.. and his homeruns will be in the lower teens. Not this year, and im a sox fan. The future, yes hes going to be better than damon
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Postby kemper5 » Wed Feb 22, 2006 5:51 pm

I agree Reynolds80. He's at the top of one of the best lineups in the league, look for this guy to post some really good numbers.. Theo Epstein said he see's Coco having more power than what he has displayed in the past also. And again, lets not forget, he just turned 26 a few months back. He's primed for a great year in that lineup..

Here is something I just read about him on CBS Sportsline.. TRUE!

Crisp has a chance to see an increase in production atop an impressive Boston lineup, so his value is on the rise. The Green Monster will be a nice target for him to improve on his .300 average, 16 home runs, 69 RBI and 15 steals in 594 AB in 2005. Consider him a potential .300-20-80-100-20 candidate in Boston, regardless of his words saying he's capable of 40-50 steals.
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Postby StudentOfTheGame » Wed Feb 22, 2006 6:10 pm

What is all this talk about him abusing the Green Monster?? He's a switch hitter who is .250 against lefties and I highly doubt he has much opposite field power....I doubt he hits over .300....I doubt he scores more than 100 runs, I don't think he'll knock in a whole lot more than 70, and he won't steal more than 10-15 bases...Solid, but he isn't going to have the type of season some of you are projecting...He doesn;t walk enough to score 110-120 runs....He's a younger Randy Winn type of player at best.
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Postby BillyHallDisciple » Wed Feb 22, 2006 6:35 pm

I notice Aaron Rowand's & Coco Crisp's projections are very similar, and Rowand can be had a little bit cheaper. Rowand mighe even be in a better line-up this year.
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Postby HOOTIE » Wed Feb 22, 2006 8:16 pm

BigLebowski wrote:
Art Vandelay wrote:Simply put, his move to Boston has people excited.


This is the only reason I can figure. People think that Coco is gonna turn into Damon since he is is Boston now.


IRL, Crisp is Damon.

RC
Damon 101
Crisp 96

RC/27
Damon 6.17
Crisp 5.80

Damon moves to a tougher park to hit in, and hit better at Fenway then on road. Crisp leaves a tough hitters park, to Fenway, where he had good road numbers last year. Damon might win the runs/rbis, but i think Crisp wins hrs/avg.
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Postby J_Cuz » Wed Feb 22, 2006 8:44 pm

When Sizemoe got hot he lost the leadoff spot in Cleveland and that adversely effeced his speed numbers.

He will not post Damon numbers but should do well for a mid round selection.

Anyone looking for 40SBs is going to be disappointed
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