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Postby zEli173 » Sun Jun 29, 2003 3:59 pm

So I thought we'd retry this topic and get a little more discussion that is actually relevant to whether Juan is being beched.

Since Rototimes speculated Juan would see less time, Juan has started both games. Does this indicate the speciulation is off base?

The Rangers correspondent on the espn site also commented that he expects Juan will see a reduction in playing time, but didn't paint as grim a picture.

I tend to think it would be a good idea for owners to trade him before it becomes conventional wisdom.
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Postby DGroundhog » Sun Jun 29, 2003 4:02 pm

Everett actually did sit down today, so I think it will cut into both players PT.

I'm sure there are many people very happy about that.
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Postby Sevillano » Mon Jun 30, 2003 12:08 am

Why was the original post locked?
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Postby DieHardCubbie » Mon Jun 30, 2003 12:12 am

The original post was locked due to some flaming that had started....We are trying to keep the site pleasant and inviting for everyone... :-)
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Postby Sevillano » Mon Jun 30, 2003 12:21 am

I see...I understand the need for that, although I think it could have been a pretty pertinent discussion on the role of race in baseball...Not the appropriate place I guess.
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Postby Arlo » Mon Jun 30, 2003 3:35 pm

Agreed, this would indeed be a pertinent discussion, and we're certainly not saying that this site isn't the place for difficult topics such as this. The key word here is discussion, however; when things devolve into mere flaming, that's a different matter, and not the kind of thing that's appropriate here...
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Postby wrveres » Tue Jul 01, 2003 12:49 am

I really do not have a problem discussing race in any forum. But to even state that the reason Juan may or may not be playing is because of the color of his skin, Is like saying that "Corker" was treated differently because of his skin color. The Rangers have said openingly that they are going to make a youth movement. I believe the decision came in the spring. It's not like anybody paying attn. to the game didn't know that around the trading deadline, The Texas Rangers were going to get younger. To inject race into such decision/discussion has got to be nothing put pure racism. period.

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Postby DGroundhog » Tue Jul 01, 2003 2:21 am

wrveres wrote:If someone is going to personally insult on these boards, you can expect the same in return. Everytime. I won't stand for it. And I do belive I have a history of going to bat for another .. if the same situation arrises.


Wait a sec...wrveres is one of the people who called me a 'racist' for suggesting race could possibly have some small effect on how some fans view him.

Now that you bring up race, wrveres, will you call YOURSELF a racist?
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Postby wrveres » Tue Jul 01, 2003 2:41 am

Juan isn't the first to use this clause, he won't be the last. Because he isn't white, everybody wants to trash him.


I believe this was your exact comment, sounds awfully racist to me.
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Postby DGroundhog » Tue Jul 01, 2003 2:44 am

explain to me how that is racist?
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