how would u rank these RPs (non closer)

[G0odFella]

Dotel- 54k/45ip 1.60era 0.84whip

Lidge- 52k/46ip 2.89era 1.20whip

Mota- 44k/44ip 2.01era 1.01whip

Hawkins- 45k/38ip 1.88era 1.10whip

Donnelly- 48k/40ip 0.44era 0.86whip

Remlinger- 47k/33ip 4.05era 1.35whip

[jdh]

1. Dotel. Simply the best setup man in the game. Sick ERA, WHIP and K numbers
2. Hawkins
3. Donnelly
4. Mota
5. Lidge
6. Remlinger

[wrveres]

1. Dotel. Simply the best setup man in the game. Sick ERA, WHIP and K numbers
2. Hawkins
3. Donnelly
4. Mota
5. Lidge
6. Remlinger

Agreed, but I would switch Remlinger and Lidge ..
As for Dotel, he is just nasty .. he would be good for 40-45 saves a year on any other team, with a sick ERA/Ratio and about 100k's.

[Nero]

1. Dotel. Simply the best setup man in the game. Sick ERA, WHIP and K numbers
2. Hawkins
3. Donnelly
4. Mota
5. Lidge
6. Remlinger

I'd flip Donnelly and Hawkins and then flip Lidge and Remlinger as well

[Guest]

In my opinion it's not worth having a non-closer on your team unless there is a possibility of him getting a closer role or starting role through injury or trade. I have Dotel and Santana. If Wagner suffers injury or trade, Dotel will be the closer. If anyone in the Twins rotation goes down, Santana will be a starter.

I don't think Lidge and Remlinger have value except in really deep leagues, or if you really need k's, whip, era, and don't need the wins as bad. Otherwise I'd probably rather have another starter than Lidge or Remlinger.

[BamaJT]

That was me above, not that it matters.

[Reiser]

Arthur Rhodes numbers are pretty close to Dotel's.

my list would be Dotel, Rhodes, Donelly in fact.

One thing you can do, and I have done, is throw in a Dotel when you have a *lot* of starts, and it will keep those ERA & WHIP numbers down. Or just start Dotel for a week or whatever and watch that ERA drop

[Super GM]

1. Dotel. Simply the best setup man in the game. Sick ERA, WHIP and K numbers
2. Hawkins
3. Donnelly
4. Mota
5. Lidge
6. Remlinger

I'd flip Donnelly and Hawkins and then flip Lidge and Remlinger as well

Ditto. I would also add Jung Bong to that list. Not just because oft the name.

[warrick95]

What about Damaso Marte? He's slowed down lately, but was putting up sick numbers.