TheRock wrote: ironman wrote:
RyanK wrote:Sandbox was where i started playing fantasy baseball.. when it was free.. then when it went pay i stopped playing fantasy baseball till last season... so i hate sandbox and am in a boycott of it.. as i think a lot of former free sandboxers where when it went pay..
I'm in this boat too. I'm sure Sandbox probably has a decent pay service now, but the way they went about transitioning from free to pay was completely unprofessional and thus alienated a large chunk of their customer base.
We had a football league we'd be running on Sandbox for 3 years then they pulled this switch just prior to the start of the season and we bailed for Yahoo!. Never looked back.
To the three of you, and anyone else in this boat - you might want to check out the posts in this thread by RotoWorld. The ones who were running the site when they made the transition to being a pay site are none of the same people who are running the site now. It is much better now.
And even when they made the transition, they didn't just make you pay right before the NFL season started and after the drafts. They made it so if you wanted to check your team during certain times you had to pay, but you could still play for free - you just couldn't check in during those times. Yeah, I was upset about it too at the time, but it's not as bad as you made it seem.
I've been there since the free days, and the positives with sandbox far outweigh the negatives, as you can probably tell from my sig.
And as for the forums, the games are what really set them apart from other sites, so the forums really shouldn't be a factor in your decision to go there - plus you can still come to these forums and play the games there. But I think if it is a factor to you, it should be a favorable one. I'm a regular at those forums (others that also are know me as Jeremy) and I'll admit, you have to prove yourself as being a good, knowledgeable owner to the other regs in order to get our respect so that you can be let into the better leagues there. They have a seprate forum for finding leagues, and many of the better leagues won't let you in unless you're an established member. However, it's not like if you're not a reg then everyone will hate you and gang up on you - you just won't be able to get into the good leagues. But once you're able to get into one reg league and you are active in it, even if you don't have a lot of posts or anything, then you'll get more respect in the forums and be let into better leagues. We only gang up on those who act like idiots and deserve it.
Oh yeah, and I'm kinda curious who it was that told you we reject anyone not in the click...
i don't post much,but i'm always lurking...
best fantasy games site = SandboxPlus.com!!