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Postby chadlincoln » Wed Feb 15, 2006 6:47 pm

It's a long post, but any help would be appreciated...

I've done fantasy baseball since '99 but always free on Yahoo or used Yahoo Plus where I paid but no cash prizes. I'm stepping out this year. A friend who doesn't know I hang around the cafe all year started talking trash and invited me into his league. I'm looking for loopholes or ways that I can take advantage of the settings. Here they are:

Roster Limits
Total Players 29

Position Max
Active C 1
Active 1B 1
Active 2B 1
Active 3B 1
Active SS 1
Active OF 3
Active DH 1
Active P 7

16 teams
AL/NL players
3 Keepers
Head to head, a win is a win, not every category is a win. Only one win or loss a week.
Points league scoring:

Scoring for Batting Categories
Singles 1 point
Doubles 2 points
Triples 3 points
Walks 1 point
Caught Stealing -1 point
Grand Slam Home Runs 6 points
Home Runs 4 points
Strikeouts -1 point
Runs Batted In 1 point
Stolen Bases 1 point

Scoring for Pitching Categories
Blown Saves -2 points
Earned Runs -1 point
Innings 0.5 points
Strikeouts (Pitcher) 1 point
Losses -5 points
No-Hitters 15 points
Saves 3 points
Shutouts 10 points
Wins 10 points

Top hitters under this point system last year:
Pujols- 529 pts
Ortiz- 502 pts
Lee- 488 pts
A-rod- 472 pts
Teix- 466 pts
Manny- 453 pts
Sheff- 444 pts
Vlad- 439 pts
A Jones- 425 pts
Hideki- 413 pts
Brian Giles- 409
Bay- 409
Tejada- 408
Young- 404
Abreu- 404
MCab- 400
Carlos Lee- 400
Jeff Kent- 391
Helton- 386
Wright- 384

Top pitchers under this point system last year:
Carp- 482
Willis- 439
Johan- 424
Peavy- 377
Oswalt- 375
Pedro- 368
RJ- 358
Colon- 352
Pettitte-348
Zambrano- 342
Lackey- 338
Clemens- 336
Smoltz- 320
Myers- 316
Buehrle- 315
Lee- 314
Capuano- 308
Beckett- 308
AJ- 302
Garland- 299

Things I note:
Speed is not important, only power really.
Closers don't have much value at all.
Power is king.
Which should I value more early in the draft? Pitching or hitting? I always go hitting, but the different in points between the top hitter and 20th hitter is 145 points while in pitching it's 183 points. What does that mean?

Any help on me getting the cash on my first $$$ league would be much, much appreciated. Thanks in advance. ;-D
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Postby chadlincoln » Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:40 pm

Bump....is this the wrong forum?
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Postby RAmst23 » Thu Feb 16, 2006 2:08 pm

Is there an inning pitched limit? Because while closers won't have much value overall, per inning the produce a good amount. A top closer earning you 200+ points in about 80 IP seems like a good deal.

Just a thought.
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Postby djacks » Thu Feb 16, 2006 2:17 pm

I would go hitters for at least the first 2 rounds, maybe 3. You can still get an 'ace' in round 4, but stick with proven studs early, don't worry about drafting young potential studs just because its a keeper league.
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Postby thedude » Thu Feb 16, 2006 2:27 pm

I was in a league very similar to this last year. As you noted go with power, more than speed. Also take pitchers ealier.

I ended up winning the league with relativly weak hitting but stud pitching, because i took chances and grabbed ace pitchers early. Go for pitchers who are innings eaters and big strike out guys.
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Postby chadlincoln » Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:36 pm

RAmst23 wrote:Is there an inning pitched limit? Because while closers won't have much value overall, per inning the produce a good amount. A top closer earning you 200+ points in about 80 IP seems like a good deal.

Just a thought.
No IP limit. Weekly lineup changes, not daily. :-t

I just checked out the pre-rankings I guess through CBS. They're looking mighty fine right about now. A lot of guys lower than I think and nice pitching late. They didn't adjust for studs with injuries so Halladay under our points pre-ranking was in the late 80's. ;-D

Thanks for taking the time to read this and help a guy out.
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Postby JimBaker » Thu Feb 16, 2006 4:35 pm

I play in similar leagues and I spent a number of hours researching for them this morning.

You're taxi squad consists of 13 players -- this gives you plenty flexibility. (That's how you win this.) Take Clint Barmes, Todd Holliday, Brad Wilkerson, Garrett Atkins and start them at home. Make value picks like Grady Sizemore, Jason Bay, Felipe Lopez, David Wright, Rickie Weeks, Chase Utley, Ryan Howard and Victor Martinez. Your league gives 3 points for triples (grab Curtis Granderson late.)

To be honest with you, if I'm in this league I load up on pitching. 17 pitchers should give you tons of double start weeks. I'd hold off on taking a pitcher until round 4 or 5, but once I start I wouldn't stop. Noah Lowry, Matt Cain, Chris Young, Zach Duke, John Patterson, Oliver Perez, Kelvim Escoar, Ervin Santana, Erik Bedard, Daniel Cabrera, Anthony Reyes, Scott Kazmir, Jae Weong Seo... 2 starts are always better than 1. I'd really work free agency and get 14 starts a week out of my SPs.

It'd be hard to pass up on Delmon Young or Chad Billingsley in a keeper league.
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Postby WittyC » Fri Feb 17, 2006 12:04 am

JimBaker wrote:I play in similar leagues and I spent a number of hours researching for them this morning.

You're taxi squad consists of 13 players -- this gives you plenty flexibility. (That's how you win this.) Take Clint Barmes, Todd Holliday, Brad Wilkerson, Garrett Atkins and start them at home. Make value picks like Grady Sizemore, Jason Bay, Felipe Lopez, David Wright, Rickie Weeks, Chase Utley, Ryan Howard and Victor Martinez. Your league gives 3 points for triples (grab Curtis Granderson late.)

To be honest with you, if I'm in this league I load up on pitching. 17 pitchers should give you tons of double start weeks. I'd hold off on taking a pitcher until round 4 or 5, but once I start I wouldn't stop. Noah Lowry, Matt Cain, Chris Young, Zach Duke, John Patterson, Oliver Perez, Kelvim Escoar, Ervin Santana, Erik Bedard, Daniel Cabrera, Anthony Reyes, Scott Kazmir, Jae Weong Seo... 2 starts are always better than 1. I'd really work free agency and get 14 starts a week out of my SPs.

It'd be hard to pass up on Delmon Young or Chad Billingsley in a keeper league.


They are doing amazing things in genetics these days, but I hadn't realized that the Rockies actually fused Helton and Holliday together to make this super, Todd Holliday! Wow! 8-o

Pretty good advice here, though! I'm no points-league vet, but I've been playing in a weekly updater for three years, and it's important to have a deep rotation of starters to get the two-start weeks and to have good matchups. Also, getting guys with good splits can be beneficial, but there will be plenty of weeks where they have one home and one road series, which neutralizes the effect.

Good luck... I'm sure you'll dominate with the Cafe knowledge you have gained over the years alone! ;-D
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Postby chadlincoln » Fri Feb 17, 2006 3:04 pm

WittyC wrote:
JimBaker wrote:I play in similar leagues and I spent a number of hours researching for them this morning.

You're taxi squad consists of 13 players -- this gives you plenty flexibility. (That's how you win this.) Take Clint Barmes, Todd Holliday, Brad Wilkerson, Garrett Atkins and start them at home. Make value picks like Grady Sizemore, Jason Bay, Felipe Lopez, David Wright, Rickie Weeks, Chase Utley, Ryan Howard and Victor Martinez. Your league gives 3 points for triples (grab Curtis Granderson late.)

To be honest with you, if I'm in this league I load up on pitching. 17 pitchers should give you tons of double start weeks. I'd hold off on taking a pitcher until round 4 or 5, but once I start I wouldn't stop. Noah Lowry, Matt Cain, Chris Young, Zach Duke, John Patterson, Oliver Perez, Kelvim Escoar, Ervin Santana, Erik Bedard, Daniel Cabrera, Anthony Reyes, Scott Kazmir, Jae Weong Seo... 2 starts are always better than 1. I'd really work free agency and get 14 starts a week out of my SPs.

It'd be hard to pass up on Delmon Young or Chad Billingsley in a keeper league.


They are doing amazing things in genetics these days, but I hadn't realized that the Rockies actually fused Helton and Holliday together to make this super, Todd Holliday! Wow! 8-o

Pretty good advice here, though! I'm no points-league vet, but I've been playing in a weekly updater for three years, and it's important to have a deep rotation of starters to get the two-start weeks and to have good matchups. Also, getting guys with good splits can be beneficial, but there will be plenty of weeks where they have one home and one road series, which neutralizes the effect.

Good luck... I'm sure you'll dominate with the Cafe knowledge you have gained over the years alone! ;-D
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