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Postby Lime » Wed Feb 15, 2006 4:35 pm

Insight please.

Victor Martinez CLE
Jason Varitek BOS
Joe Mauer MIN
Javy Lopez BAL
Jorge Posada NYY
Mike Piazza SD
Ramon Hernandez BAL
Kenji Johjima SEA
Mike Lieberthal PHI
Bengie Molina TOR
Brian McCann ATL
Ivan Rodriguez DET
Johnny Estrada ARI
A.J. Pierzynski CWS
Jason Kendall OAK
Paul Lo Duca NYM

Who's too high. Who's too low. Who am I missing altogether.

Note that I'm basing these on the standard 5 offensive categories MINUS Average and PLUS On Base and Slugging Percentage. In other words this is a real league we're talking about. No shady and overused stats like batting average.
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Re: Catcher Rankings

Postby J35J » Wed Feb 15, 2006 4:41 pm

Lime wrote:Insight please.

Victor Martinez CLE
Jason Varitek BOS
Joe Mauer MIN
Javy Lopez BAL
Jorge Posada NYY
Mike Piazza SD - too high
Ramon Hernandez BAL
Kenji Johjima SEA
Mike Lieberthal PHI - too high
Bengie Molina TOR
Brian McCann ATL - too high
Ivan Rodriguez DET - too low
Johnny Estrada ARI
A.J. Pierzynski CWS - too low
Jason Kendall OAK - too low
Paul Lo Duca NYM



I would probably change more than this but these are the ones that stood out to me.
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Wed Feb 15, 2006 4:45 pm

Victor Martinez CLE
Jason Varitek BOS
Joe Mauer MIN
Javy Lopez BAL
Jorge Posada NYY
Mike Piazza SD - too high
Ramon Hernandez BAL
Kenji Johjima SEA
Mike Lieberthal PHI - too high
Bengie Molina TOR
Brian McCann ATL - too high
Ivan Rodriguez DET
Johnny Estrada ARI - too high
A.J. Pierzynski CWS - too low
Jason Kendall OAK -too low
Paul Lo Duca NYM

Barrett and Barjas are missing.
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Postby Lime » Wed Feb 15, 2006 4:59 pm

Why is Kendall too low when he did absolutely nothing last year?

0 HR
8 SB (whoopie)
70 R (whoopie)
50 RBI
.345 OBP (his best stat and it's half-decent at the most)
.321 SLG (that's a killer in my league)

Pudge, his .290 OBP scares me to death.

As for Piazza being too high, he seems good for an .800 OPS which many of these other catchers cannot claim. Plus he'll be getting some nice touches in SD's lineup, probably hitting cleanup. I don't see who should be ahead of him, of who I already don't have ahead of him.

I also wouldn't mind some input on Johjima. What kind of numbers can we expect out of this guy?
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Postby ferris182 » Wed Feb 15, 2006 5:01 pm

What about Michael Barrett?

He is right below Ramon Hernandez on my list.
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Postby Lime » Wed Feb 15, 2006 5:08 pm

Wow. Leaving Barrett off was definitely a freak accident. My bad.

There might be more that I missed. That's why I'm here.
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Postby WittyC » Wed Feb 15, 2006 5:13 pm

Lime wrote:Why is Kendall too low when he did absolutely nothing last year?

0 HR
8 SB (whoopie)
70 R (whoopie)
50 RBI
.345 OBP (his best stat and it's half-decent at the most)
.321 SLG (that's a killer in my league)

Pudge, his .290 OBP scares me to death.

As for Piazza being too high, he seems good for an .800 OPS which many of these other catchers cannot claim. Plus he'll be getting some nice touches in SD's lineup, probably hitting cleanup. I don't see who should be ahead of him, of who I already don't have ahead of him.

I also wouldn't mind some input on Johjima. What kind of numbers can we expect out of this guy?


I expect a bit of a rebound year for Kendall... at least as far as average and runs are concerned. It's his second year in Oakland, and I'm of the theory that a poor first year in a new park tend to be followed up by a bounce-back year.

Pudge is scary, but depending on your league, might be a good value pick considering risk/reward.

Piazza is getting nice touches in SD's lineup? Is he playing running back? :-? Regardless, I wouldn't touch him at Petco. He needs to stick to the booth.

Johjima is just a wildcard, IMO. He posted some staggering numbers in Japan, but who knows how they will translate (see: Matsui vs. Matsui). Plus, he's had some injury concerns over the past couple of years.
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Postby KOSTAS » Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:59 am

Two notable ommisions:

Rod Barajas- 20 homer power/ Ameriquest/ that lineup

Josh Willingham- C status/ going to break out power stick in 06'/ OPS
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Postby klvrdude » Thu Feb 16, 2006 4:58 am

I think Kendall will "bounce back" this year now that he has a year in the AL under his belt. I see his AVG adn OPS going back up, but his slugging will never be great....or even good....hopefully its mediocre.

And as long as we are throwing out names, I'll toss Ryan Doumit (PIT) into the mix ahead of both Estrada and McCann.
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Postby bane » Thu Feb 16, 2006 7:13 am

KOSTAS wrote:Two notable ommisions:

Rod Barajas- 20 homer power/ Ameriquest/ that lineup

Josh Willingham- C status/ going to break out power stick in 06'/ OPS


does willingham have the catcher job? i know they have miguel olivo.
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