ukrneal wrote:The question wasn't who was the greatest pitcher, but who has the greatest stuff. That usually means: hardest throwing, most intimidating, hardest to hit, raw power, best tools (regardless of results), etc.
Using that criteria, i can't of anyone that beats Ryan. Randy Johnson is there. Pedro as well.
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how can prior not be onthat list. Have you ever seen the electricity on his fastball. That 2-seamer when its on is almost unhittable. What about Rick Ankiel 4 wild pitches in one inning his stuff must be nasty.......just kidding
I remember watching Greg Maddux 10 years ago. The movement on all his pitches were ridiculous. I saw more batters turn around knowing they were just k'd looking by the nastiness of maddux in one game then i saw all season for the yankees this year. Just throwing that out there
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How about Charles "Old Hoss" Radbourn - pitched 73 complete games in 1884 for the Providence Grays - 60 wins!!! He had a 1.38 ERA that season in 678 2/3 IP's with 441 K's.
And for some useless trivia, some say that the term "charley horse" was named after him.
http://www.baseballhalloffame.org/hofer ... harles.htm
Still holds the MLB record for Grand Slams with 23
AcidRock23 wrote:Then there's the whole question of 'stuff' on the balls before they started using clean balls c. 1920, loogies, chaw, licorice, you name it...there WAS some nasty stuff on those balls...
No need to go back so far. Gaylord Perry springs to mind!