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Postby GotowarMissAgnes » Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:49 pm

Somehow Justin Verlander with the Tigers keeps getting forgotten in these young pitcher discussions. The lack of attention means he should be available late. I'd rate him above everyone except Felix and Kazmir among pitchers 23 and under.
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Postby mtarail » Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:12 am

Lowry and Bonderman are two young guys (well, Lowry is 25) that have upside and can be had in the 2nd half of a draft.
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Postby klvrdude » Fri Feb 10, 2006 3:12 am

Duke, Reyes and Cabrera are three more younger pitchers who's names you can throw into this discussion.

Personally, I don't think highly of young pitchers b/c they can be very volatile and normally have some more polishing that only comes with time in the majors.
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Postby BigBobE » Fri Feb 10, 2006 7:20 am

Take a look at Paul Maholm in PIT...
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Postby Mercer Boy » Fri Feb 10, 2006 8:01 am

BigBobE wrote:Take a look at Paul Maholm in PIT...


Yeah, he's sleeper material. He was really good at the end of the year for the Pirates, but I'm going to bet he gets figured out after a few months. He should be the 4th starter for Pittsburgh this year. That said, I wouldn't be picking him in a normal draft, but he's someone to think about in deep keeper/dynasty drafts or NL only stuff.

The one thing to remember with Pirates pitching is that no matter how good they are, they still play for a pitiful offensive team. Expect run support in the 2's or 3's for most of the year. Unless the pitcher is ultra sharp all the time, he won't get you many wins.

Perez will probably not return to '04 form, but I suppose he's worth a late flier in most drafts. I would rate Duke higher than Perez since he's a more controlled and poised pitcher, but I still expect fewer wins (like 12 maybe) and around a 3.75-4 ERA. He will get figured out by some teams this year, and since the Pirates will have problems scoring his 2-1 wins from last year will be harder to come by. Add into it the fact that he's now expected to be the team "ace" and you have a recipie for disaster. :-o :,-(
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Postby KOSTAS » Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:54 am

Three names:

Jon Papelbon, Bos

Anthony Reyes, Stl

Cesar Carillo, SD
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