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Postby KOSTAS » Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:08 am

Great list- congrats on recognizing the talents of JJ Hardy and giving him his due. The Brewers are going to have one dynamic ofense.
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Postby Coppermine » Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:18 am

I think Reyes could easily hit 10-15 home runs within the next couple years, perhaps more beyond that. He's like 22 years old.... Rollins is just coming into his own now and he's at that magical age of 27.

If Reyes improves his plate discipline this year and actually learns how to take pitches, he'll easily be one of the league leaders in SB's and Runs scored (with Beltran, Delgago, Wright and Floyd hitting behind him... yikes, the Mets look great this year!).
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Re: My SS rankings

Postby Eightan » Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:18 am

TheYanks04 wrote:
Phatferd wrote:
TheYanks04 wrote:
Phatferd wrote:SS
Young, Michael
Tejada, Miguel

Jeter, Derek
Rollins, Jimmy
Furcal, Rafael
Reyes, Jose


Peralta, Jhonny
Lugo, Julio
Crosby, Bobby
Garciapara, Nomar
Barmes, Clint
Hardy, J.J.
Guillen, Carlos
Renteria, Edgar


Uribe, Juan
Caberra, Orlando
Greene, Khalil
Eckstein, David

Gonzalez, Alex (Bos)
Wilson, Jack
Vizquel, Omar


I like Reyes over Furcal and Rollins myself. If you get a SS that swipes some bases with 8-15 HR power, I want the guy that gets me 60 SBs, not the one with 40....but that is me.


Let me know when Reyes hits 15 HR. So far he is all hype other than his speed.



He hit 7 last year. He is young and certainly could ratchet that up a few more.

So if you rather have Rollins and his 12 Hrs and 41 Sbs as opposed to Reyes with 7 Hrs and 60 Sbs that is your perrogative. They are essentially the same in value, but since their main function on the roster is SBs, I rather take my chances with the guy with 20 more SBs and get those 7 or so Hrs back somewhere else in the OF and therefore not need to add another Aaron Rowand type to my squad.


you're ignoring their respective differences in average, rollins' is significantly higher, about 20 points actually.
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Postby Phatferd » Thu Feb 09, 2006 12:06 pm

Regarding Lopez, he was in my rankings, but I dunno what happened. I added Crosby right before I pasted my list on here and I did some edititing to do it, so I think I accidently cut Lopez.

As to Reyes and Rollins, I appreciate the discussions. Great points from all. The thing that really worries me about Reyes is his lack of taking pitches. Also like the last poster said, Rollins has a lot better of a Batting Average.
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Postby pat1999 » Thu Feb 09, 2006 12:24 pm

as soon as reyes can figure out what a stirke and a ball looks like he will be hitting 10-15 homers a year
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Postby Phatferd » Thu Feb 09, 2006 12:26 pm

pat1999 wrote:as soon as reyes can figure out what a stirke and a ball looks like he will be hitting 10-15 homers a year


I think he has a decent shot, however, until he proves it I will take him for what he is a solid contact hitter with great speed.
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Postby Eightan » Thu Feb 09, 2006 12:36 pm

pat1999 wrote:as soon as reyes can figure out what a stirke and a ball looks like he will be hitting 10-15 homers a year


he's in the big leagues dude, if he hasn't figured it out by now, he never will.
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Postby KOSTAS » Thu Feb 09, 2006 12:53 pm

fatnub2339 wrote:good list, though i'd put peralta with jeter and the 2nd tier


why don't we give Peralta one more year to prove himself before we put him on the same level as Jeter aye? :-) Besides, Peralta does not run at all and that does not help you in fantasy. probably what will keep Hardy from being an elite fantasy SS as well.
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Postby djacks » Thu Feb 09, 2006 6:00 pm

KOSTAS wrote:
fatnub2339 wrote:good list, though i'd put peralta with jeter and the 2nd tier


why don't we give Peralta one more year to prove himself before we put him on the same level as Jeter aye? :-) Besides, Peralta does not run at all and that does not help you in fantasy. probably what will keep Hardy from being an elite fantasy SS as well.


I guess that means Tejada is not an elite fantasy SS either... :-?

I'll take Peralta's numbers at SS anytime...steals or no steals.
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Postby KOSTAS » Thu Feb 09, 2006 6:02 pm

djacks wrote:
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fatnub2339 wrote:good list, though i'd put peralta with jeter and the 2nd tier


why don't we give Peralta one more year to prove himself before we put him on the same level as Jeter aye? :-) Besides, Peralta does not run at all and that does not help you in fantasy. probably what will keep Hardy from being an elite fantasy SS as well.


I guess that means Tejada is not an elite fantasy SS either... :-?

I'll take Peralta's numbers at SS anytime...steals or no steals.


no. I did not say that at all. Peralta is just not in the same league as Jeter or Tejada...not by a long shot. Give him 2-3 years and if he puts up 25+ HR, 100+ RBI and a .300 avg then we will talk about Peralta (sounds like you own him).
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